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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2016, 12:12:19 AM »
My proof was that a equal amount of men and women rached the highest level that a human can reach (obviously there are higher and lower levels of prophecy) so if the endgame is in your level of devotion/dveikus bahashem etc etc a equal amount reached the highest level. For a good lecture on this topic (or any other topic) http://www.dovidgottlieb.com/lectures/women_and_men.htm there is also a great book by Rabbi Moshe Meiselman but I forgot the name.
a mamzer talmid chacham is better than a kohein am ha'aretz, the question is if there is an inherent difference between man and woman
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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2016, 12:13:32 AM »
women have it easier, lesbians are not against halacha
WRONG! its an issur drabanan

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2016, 12:16:23 AM »
Why is physical strength of any consideration whatsoever?
do you say the other brachos in the morning or just this one?? pokeach ivrim, malbish arumim...

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2016, 12:18:16 AM »
women can masturbate... no shichvat zera
wrong. hirhurim is asur even for women. (Igros Moshe)

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2016, 12:18:20 AM »

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2016, 12:19:12 AM »

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2016, 12:38:22 AM »
wrong. hirhurim is asur even for women. (Igros Moshe)
Where?

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2016, 12:40:19 AM »
women have it easier, lesbians are not against halacha
Are you a women by any chance? :P

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2016, 12:41:25 AM »
women can masturbate... no shichvat zera
Thank you, Mr Chevron. We knew we could count on you.
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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2016, 12:44:45 AM »
women have it easier, lesbians are not against halacha
That's because of the metzius, not because of the din.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2016, 12:52:38 AM »
Thank you, Mr Chevron. We knew we could count on you.

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2016, 08:44:57 AM »
sorry but that sounds ridiculous. the fact that we say shelo osani isha proves that men are superior and therefore that answers your question because it doesn't make sense for women to say shelo osani ish if they are inferior.
Wrong.

Where does superior and inferior come in to this story?
How about they just have different roles to play. I'm not talking about spiritually. Phisically, G-D made us different and we each have our own unique goal to fulfill and we can thank G-D for that every morning and then some more.

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2016, 08:50:14 AM »
Where?
How am I supposed to remember. I'm not million miles secrets, I don't hand it to you on a silver platter.
Your gonna have to do some research on your own.
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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2016, 08:51:16 AM »
what does it mean being superior anyways ?
"Not all who wander are lost"

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2016, 08:53:35 AM »
What I understand is that Mitzvos are a method to create and maintain a connection with HaShem,
Men have more Mitzvos because otherwise we wouldn't be too connected.
Women were created at a higher spiritual plane and therefore require less Mitzvos to create and maintain a strong connection with HaShem.
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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2016, 09:13:38 AM »
Wrong.

Where does superior and inferior come in to this story?
How about they just have different roles to play. I'm not talking about spiritually. Phisically, G-D made us different and we each have our own unique goal to fulfill and we can thank G-D for that every morning and then some more.

What I understand is that Mitzvos are a method to create and maintain a connection with HaShem,
Men have more Mitzvos because otherwise we wouldn't be too connected.
Women were created at a higher spiritual plane and therefore require less Mitzvos to create and maintain a strong connection with HaShem.

so why do men say shelo osani isha??? i mean men are thanking G-D that they are NOT  women :o

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2016, 09:20:39 AM »
so why do men say shelo osani isha??? i mean men are thanking G-D that they are NOT  women :o
Maybe because men wrote the brachos? :)
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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2016, 09:23:13 AM »
Are you a women by any chance? :P

i thought he was saying he's gay

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Re: Women's role in judaism
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2016, 10:25:04 AM »
so why do men say shelo osani isha??? i mean men are thanking G-D that they are NOT  women :o

We make this brucha because men have mitzvahs which woman don't and therefore we make that brucha, we thank hoshem that we have more mitzvahs.
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Women's role in judaism
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2016, 10:31:41 AM »
I think women are superior and men make the bracha "shelo asani isha" fulfilling "ksheim shmevarchim al hatov mevarchim al hara'a"

Women don't say "shelo asani ish" just because we don't like rubbing it in.
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