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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1400 on: September 22, 2016, 12:29:28 PM »
The dealers should be offering one free cancellation. 

"We ask that you cancel your order that is processing, you will bear the burden of the change in circumstances from the mint.  In exchange, we offer to you a free cancellation on any upcoming deal of your choosing.  We will then bear the burden of the change in circumstances from the marketplace."

Easy peasy.
Like that idea!
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1401 on: September 22, 2016, 12:30:15 PM »
The dealers should be offering one free cancellation. 

"We ask that you cancel your order that is processing, you will bear the burden of the change in circumstances from the mint.  In exchange, we offer to you a free cancellation on any upcoming deal of your choosing.  We will then bear the burden of the change in circumstances from the marketplace."

Easy peasy.

why does that make sense?? one could be a loss of 30$ while they can be giving up a gain of $300...

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1402 on: September 22, 2016, 12:32:27 PM »
why does that make sense?? one could be a loss of 30$ while they can be giving up a gain of $300...
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1403 on: September 22, 2016, 12:34:14 PM »
why does that make sense?? one could be a loss of 30$ while they can be giving up a gain of $300...
You can't have it one way and not the other way! If what your saying is true, then there should be no if, and or buts! A deal is a deal!

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1404 on: September 22, 2016, 12:34:25 PM »
Not everything is fair in life!

dumb response!! the point is that they dont have to offer anything to begin with and if they want to offer it they can offer something that is worth it for them...

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1405 on: September 22, 2016, 12:36:00 PM »
The dealers should be offering one free cancellation. 

"We ask that you cancel your order that is processing, you will bear the burden of the change in circumstances from the mint.  In exchange, we offer to you a free cancellation on any upcoming deal of your choosing.  We will then bear the burden of the change in circumstances from the marketplace."

Easy peasy.
Its not the same. In this case the whole exclusivity of the coin isn't there anymore, which technically makes the whole deal, not a deal. Its not like the value dropped due to poor demand and then he asked you to cancel. If that were the case your solution would be spot on.

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1406 on: September 22, 2016, 12:37:29 PM »
dumb response!! the point is that they dont have to offer anything to begin with and if they want to offer it they can offer something that is worth it for them...
If they didn't offer anything, no one would buy it for them.

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1407 on: September 22, 2016, 12:38:03 PM »
dumb response!! the point is that they dont have to offer anything to begin with and if they want to offer it they can offer something that is worth it for them...
What?!? They don't have to keep their word?!
Very smart response!
 We could continue this argument back and forth!......
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1408 on: September 22, 2016, 12:40:17 PM »
dumb response!! the point is that they dont have to offer anything to begin with and if they want to offer it they can offer something that is worth it for them...
What?!? They don't have to keep their word?!
Very smart response!
 We could continue this argument back and forth!......
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1409 on: September 22, 2016, 12:42:05 PM »
If you would order an esrog for succos, (or a Christmas tree for the holidays) and the seller had issues and couldn't ship your order until the week after YT, would you think that canceling the order is unethical? What would you think of a seller that refuses to refund you, because you had an agreement and the unforseen circumstances aren't his fault? How noble would you consider it if the buyer has pity on the seller, understands that he already put in the effort to fulfilling the order and had issues come up due to no fault of his own, and agrees to buy the items at a loss?

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1410 on: September 22, 2016, 12:47:07 PM »
PFS is like Donald Trump he gets all this free media attention without having to do a thing!  :P

ETA: Maybe that's why he asked people to cancel ;D

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1411 on: September 22, 2016, 12:48:27 PM »
If you would order an esrog for succos, (or a Christmas tree for the holidays) and the seller had issues and couldn't ship your order until the week after YT, would you think that canceling the order is unethical? What would you think of a seller that refuses to refund you, because you had an agreement and the unforseen circumstances aren't his fault? How noble would you consider it if the buyer has pity on the seller, understands that he already put in the effort to fulfilling the order and had issues come up due to no fault of his own, and agrees to buy the items at a loss?

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Agree, Basically when asked to cancel you don't have to, but by being a mentch would be to cancel! And regarding the sellers where it's a gain (and a fluctuating gain where you could make more or less in profits!) and no loss! So yes there is a difference between the 2! 
 
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1412 on: September 22, 2016, 12:49:54 PM »
If you would order an esrog for succos, (or a Christmas tree for the holidays) and the seller had issues and couldn't ship your order until the week after YT, would you think that canceling the order is unethical? What would you think of a seller that refuses to refund you, because you had an agreement and the unforseen circumstances aren't his fault? How noble would you consider it if the buyer has pity on the seller, understands that he already put in the effort to fulfilling the order and had issues come up due to no fault of his own, and agrees to buy the items at a loss?

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Great way of putting it ...

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1413 on: September 22, 2016, 12:50:19 PM »
PFS is like Donald Trump he gets all this free media attention without having to do a thing!  :P

ETA: Maybe that's why he asked people to cancel ;D
Great to see how far a coin deal can go! From DJT to JTZ and a crow and PFS! ;)
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1414 on: September 22, 2016, 12:55:11 PM »
"the fair thing would be to do it like this"
"but that isn't fair"
Not everything is fair in life!

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1415 on: September 22, 2016, 12:57:51 PM »
Great to see how far a coin deal can go! From DJT to JTZ and a crow and PFS! ;)
I guess we are getting warmed up for tomorrow (PC Friday).
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1416 on: September 22, 2016, 01:09:55 PM »
why does that make sense?? one could be a loss of 30$ while they can be giving up a gain of $300...

You're rationale for why it doesn't make sense is my rationale for why it does.

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New Coin Deal
« Reply #1417 on: September 22, 2016, 01:16:52 PM »
I guess we are getting warmed up for tomorrow (PC Friday).
I think this may qualify as a PC already

ETA: just saw that TimT added this thread to the PC thread two hours ago.
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1418 on: September 22, 2016, 01:27:21 PM »
I think this may qualify as a PC already
samsung thread was way better

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #1419 on: September 22, 2016, 01:33:41 PM »
You're rationale for why it doesn't make sense is my rationale for why it does.
Ahhhh so you feel that they take advantage of him.....
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