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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3270 on: November 18, 2019, 09:56:37 PM »
A point of view I didn't consider from a DOC poster.

Personally I think this is hilarious. These guys who are seasoned professionals, enlisted tons of people to help them bypass the rules that are designed to allow real collectors and individuals a chance to get 1 copy of this rare item.
They KNEW what the price was going to be, especially since they were already selling for 500+ well before they went live. They still offered people 200, when tons of other dealers (reputable ones) were offering 4-500 (and those guys were planning on reselling them also). The try to trade in this notion of, well won’t scam you so what we offer is great! Well, plenty of other people won’t scam, but offered people double or more for their item, instead of trying to seize even more of the profit.
The FACT is that if dealers are paying 500, they are selling it for even more, but PFS is upset because some people are choosing to not give it to them for 200 so that they can’t make an extra 300 per item that they shouldn’t have been allowed to get anyway because of the Mint rules?
People should honor their agreements for sure. However, enlisting a ton of people who know nothing about this market or collectibles in order to exploit their ignorance to make a colossal profit compared to competitors is not right either. PFS could easily have agreed to pay pay people a little more given the market, but instead they talk about “well once when a cheap item went down a few bucks, we ate the “loss!” Hardly the same as “we used you people to get around the rules to get 1000s of an item that a ton of actual individuals want, but couldn’t get because we cheated to get them en masse, and we are mad that we couldn’t sell them to those same people for a fortune because some people wanted to make a larger share of the profit instead of letting us pay them 100 profit and keep 400+.”
Sorry but I can’t really cry for them. When you are already engaged in a process designed to fundamentally cheat the system to enrich yourself, you give up the moral right to cry when some people get wise and cut you out.
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3271 on: November 18, 2019, 10:18:02 PM »
A point of view I didn't consider from a DOC poster.

Personally I think this is hilarious. These guys who are seasoned professionals, enlisted tons of people to help them bypass the rules that are designed to allow real collectors and individuals a chance to get 1 copy of this rare item.
They KNEW what the price was going to be, especially since they were already selling for 500+ well before they went live. They still offered people 200, when tons of other dealers (reputable ones) were offering 4-500 (and those guys were planning on reselling them also). The try to trade in this notion of, well won’t scam you so what we offer is great! Well, plenty of other people won’t scam, but offered people double or more for their item, instead of trying to seize even more of the profit.
The FACT is that if dealers are paying 500, they are selling it for even more, but PFS is upset because some people are choosing to not give it to them for 200 so that they can’t make an extra 300 per item that they shouldn’t have been allowed to get anyway because of the Mint rules?
People should honor their agreements for sure. However, enlisting a ton of people who know nothing about this market or collectibles in order to exploit their ignorance to make a colossal profit compared to competitors is not right either. PFS could easily have agreed to pay pay people a little more given the market, but instead they talk about “well once when a cheap item went down a few bucks, we ate the “loss!” Hardly the same as “we used you people to get around the rules to get 1000s of an item that a ton of actual individuals want, but couldn’t get because we cheated to get them en masse, and we are mad that we couldn’t sell them to those same people for a fortune because some people wanted to make a larger share of the profit instead of letting us pay them 100 profit and keep 400+.”
Sorry but I can’t really cry for them. When you are already engaged in a process designed to fundamentally cheat the system to enrich yourself, you give up the moral right to cry when some people get wise and cut you out.

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3272 on: November 18, 2019, 10:19:52 PM »

If you are going to accuse someone of something you should have your facts correct.  ::)
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3273 on: November 18, 2019, 10:24:07 PM »
If you are going to accuse someone of something you should have your facts correct.  ::)
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3274 on: November 18, 2019, 10:24:56 PM »
A point of view I didn't consider from a DOC poster.

Personally I think this is hilarious. These guys who are seasoned professionals, enlisted tons of people to help them bypass the rules that are designed to allow real collectors and individuals a chance to get 1 copy of this rare item.
They KNEW what the price was going to be, especially since they were already selling for 500+ well before they went live. They still offered people 200, when tons of other dealers (reputable ones) were offering 4-500 (and those guys were planning on reselling them also). The try to trade in this notion of, well won’t scam you so what we offer is great! Well, plenty of other people won’t scam, but offered people double or more for their item, instead of trying to seize even more of the profit.
The FACT is that if dealers are paying 500, they are selling it for even more, but PFS is upset because some people are choosing to not give it to them for 200 so that they can’t make an extra 300 per item that they shouldn’t have been allowed to get anyway because of the Mint rules?
People should honor their agreements for sure. However, enlisting a ton of people who know nothing about this market or collectibles in order to exploit their ignorance to make a colossal profit compared to competitors is not right either. PFS could easily have agreed to pay pay people a little more given the market, but instead they talk about “well once when a cheap item went down a few bucks, we ate the “loss!” Hardly the same as “we used you people to get around the rules to get 1000s of an item that a ton of actual individuals want, but couldn’t get because we cheated to get them en masse, and we are mad that we couldn’t sell them to those same people for a fortune because some people wanted to make a larger share of the profit instead of letting us pay them 100 profit and keep 400+.”
Sorry but I can’t really cry for them. When you are already engaged in a process designed to fundamentally cheat the system to enrich yourself, you give up the moral right to cry when some people get wise and cut you out.
according to @pfscoins his numbers are off



Now, typically we give ~60% of the premium the we receive (over mint cost) to our members, we have about 20% of opex, and are lucky/extremely happy if we net 20% of what the total premium is.

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3275 on: November 18, 2019, 10:33:07 PM »
You could still sell your coin to someone else even if you opted in before, but you're a very dishonest point period.

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3276 on: November 18, 2019, 10:34:19 PM »
Huh? ???
You highlight the Mint rules then highlight how many I was selling. What was your point?
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3277 on: November 18, 2019, 10:38:28 PM »
Also perhaps his son had 4 wives

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3278 on: November 18, 2019, 10:39:29 PM »
Also perhaps his son had 4 wives
Not nice talking this way
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3279 on: November 18, 2019, 10:42:10 PM »
Not nice talking this way
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« Reply #3280 on: November 18, 2019, 11:35:56 PM »
Just spent with them an hour over the phone , they say that the reason it was cancelled was bcs the info didn't match. Which is absolutely false. My cc info exactly matched my shipping address.
Same Got today cancellation.
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3281 on: November 18, 2019, 11:55:16 PM »
A point of view I didn't consider from a DOC poster.

Personally I think this is hilarious. These guys who are seasoned professionals, enlisted tons of people to help them bypass the rules that are designed to allow real collectors and individuals a chance to get 1 copy of this rare item.
They KNEW what the price was going to be, especially since they were already selling for 500+ well before they went live. They still offered people 200, when tons of other dealers (reputable ones) were offering 4-500 (and those guys were planning on reselling them also). The try to trade in this notion of, well won’t scam you so what we offer is great! Well, plenty of other people won’t scam, but offered people double or more for their item, instead of trying to seize even more of the profit.
The FACT is that if dealers are paying 500, they are selling it for even more, but PFS is upset because some people are choosing to not give it to them for 200 so that they can’t make an extra 300 per item that they shouldn’t have been allowed to get anyway because of the Mint rules?
People should honor their agreements for sure. However, enlisting a ton of people who know nothing about this market or collectibles in order to exploit their ignorance to make a colossal profit compared to competitors is not right either. PFS could easily have agreed to pay pay people a little more given the market, but instead they talk about “well once when a cheap item went down a few bucks, we ate the “loss!” Hardly the same as “we used you people to get around the rules to get 1000s of an item that a ton of actual individuals want, but couldn’t get because we cheated to get them en masse, and we are mad that we couldn’t sell them to those same people for a fortune because some people wanted to make a larger share of the profit instead of letting us pay them 100 profit and keep 400+.”
Sorry but I can’t really cry for them. When you are already engaged in a process designed to fundamentally cheat the system to enrich yourself, you give up the moral right to cry when some people get wise and cut you out.
A diff point of view.. the BGs possibly/probably already locked in prices with the dealer they are selling to and can't afford to match the commission of newer POs that other groups are trying to fill... How about the dealer that loses out  when the BGs can't fill their POs when the individual buyers back out..

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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3282 on: November 19, 2019, 12:00:47 AM »
A diff point of view.. the BGs possibly/probably already locked in prices with the dealer they are selling to and can't afford to match the commission of newer POs that other groups are trying to fill... How about the dealer that loses out  when the BGs can't fill their POs when the individual buyers back out..
Correct and you should look at all point of views.
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3283 on: November 19, 2019, 03:23:41 AM »
wow! need a few Fridays for this thread. I wish a mod could clean this up...
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Re: New Coin Deal
« Reply #3284 on: November 19, 2019, 06:51:31 AM »
Correct and you should look at all point of views.

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