Universal PreKindergarten (UPK)

[skyguy918]

There is a limited amount on long island

Through NYC UPK, or some Nassau program?

[3yummyboys]

I'm curious why all schools don't have a upk program? Does anyone know the requirements for the school?

[cozmohoot]

I'm curious why all schools don't have a upk program? Does anyone know the requirements for the school?

Too much dishonesty which not every school wants to partake in.

[Ergel]

Too much dishonesty which not every school wants to partake in.

Every school doing UPK had to lie? I find that hard to believe

[Palm5]

So does anyone know a school in Flatbush that gives free upk or close to it?

[elit]

Every school doing UPK had to lie? I find that hard to believe

A lot of borderline stuff that some places are prob more comfortable with than others

[skyguy918]

A lot of borderline stuff that some places are prob more comfortable with than others

Meh. You can definitely run a proper Jewish program entirely within the rules. It's a lot of work, and some places my be cutting corners. But that's true outside of the UPK program as well.

[moko]

So does anyone know a school in Flatbush that gives free upk or close to it?

BYBP

[cozmohoot]

Meh. You can definitely run a proper Jewish program entirely within the rules. It's a lot of work, and some places my be cutting corners. But that's true outside of the UPK program as well.

So why aren't the ones who get money from upk passing the savings to us?

[skyguy918]

So why aren't the ones who get money from upk passing the savings to us?

Lol, you gotta ask them that.

I'm curious whether this is only happening at schools that have a full K-8 program after UPK, or even at pre-school only programs. If it's a pre-school only program that's literally pocketing the UPK money, that's absolutely indefensible, and the parents should boycott that school. If it's a regular Yeshiva with a pre-school program, I'm not defending the practice in any way, but I can see where they might be tempted to keep charging regular tuition and use the UPK funds to essentially subsidize other parts of the school.

Bottom line is, these schools will be influenced by parents' decisions. If parents organized and stood up to the school on this issue, you can be sure things will change. Or if everyone flocks to the few places that are charging a reasonable, reduced tuition, that will cause the remaining UPK schools to change as well.

[cozmohoot]

My wife used to work in a preschool and when the upk people came down a big show had to be put on.
1 example was having 2 teachers in the classroom which almost never happened unless it was an inspection day

[elit]

Meh. You can definitely run a proper Jewish program entirely within the rules. It's a lot of work, and some places my be cutting corners. But that's true outside of the UPK program as well.

Lol, you gotta ask them that.

I'm curious whether this is only happening at schools that have a full K-8 program after UPK, or even at pre-school only programs. If it's a pre-school only program that's literally pocketing the UPK money, that's absolutely indefensible, and the parents should boycott that school. If it's a regular Yeshiva with a pre-school program, I'm not defending the practice in any way, but I can see where they might be tempted to keep charging regular tuition and use the UPK funds to essentially subsidize other parts of the school.

Bottom line is, these schools will be influenced by parents' decisions. If parents organized and stood up to the school on this issue, you can be sure things will change. Or if everyone flocks to the few places that are charging a reasonable, reduced tuition, that will cause the remaining UPK schools to change as well.

[skyguy918]

My wife used to work in a preschool and when the upk people came down a big show had to be put on.
1 example was having 2 teachers in the classroom which almost never happened unless it was an inspection day

Which is of course stupid, because the funding should easily cover the cost of having 2 teachers. My son's pre-school has 2 UPK classes, each with a teacher and 2 assistant teachers. It's that much worse if this was a place charging regular tuition on top of the UPK money.