Author Topic: EL AL (Read 670960 times)

yandmk · « **Reply #600 on:** July 19, 2018, 02:35:34 PM »

Quote from: yanks10952 on July 19, 2018, 02:20:53 PM

I tried to find if it has been talked about but could not find it sorry if its a repost

I am flying first time ELAL 747 (normally go United) and according to Seat Guru 35K is very good as there is no seat in front and it has a window? Am I missing something it seems pretty good? Can i get out without going over the other two people in my row?

FTFY
I believe it's a very good seat. But it cost $$ IINM

tavster · « **Reply #601 on:** July 19, 2018, 02:40:05 PM »

Quote from: yandmk on July 19, 2018, 02:35:34 PM

FTFY
I believe it's a very good seat. But it cost $$ IINM

That's right.

Seat map: https://www.elal.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/About-ELAL/EL%20AL%20Planes/747-400.JPG

Hjay · « **Reply #602 on:** July 26, 2018, 09:32:55 AM »

LY8 from JFK - TLV 11:45pm, showing on FlightAware that it left at 1:19am which is 1hour 34 min late now showing that it’s landing at 8:57pm which is almost 4 hours later than originally scheduled. How does that make sense?

yandmk · « **Reply #603 on:** July 26, 2018, 09:41:14 AM »

Quote from: Hjay on July 26, 2018, 09:32:55 AM

LY8 from JFK - TLV 11:45pm, showing on FlightAware that it left at 1:19am which is 1hour 34 min late now showing that it’s landing at 8:57pm which is almost 4 hours later than originally scheduled. How does that make sense?

It's a mistake. Scheduled to land about 5:35pm Even according to FlightAware the map shows it nearly approaching IL

Hjay · « **Reply #604 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:17:45 AM »

Quote from: yandmk on July 26, 2018, 09:41:14 AM

It's a mistake. Scheduled to land about 5:35pm Even according to FlightAware the map shows it nearly approaching IL

Thanks. Couldn’t figure it out, but I knew something was off.

Hjay · « **Reply #605 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:50:24 AM »

Quote from: yandmk on July 26, 2018, 09:41:14 AM

It's a mistake. Scheduled to land about 5:35pm Even according to FlightAware the map shows it nearly approaching IL

How can I see exactly when they’re landing? Still looks like they’re in the air.

ExGingi · « **Reply #606 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:58:45 AM »

Quote from: Hjay on July 26, 2018, 10:50:24 AM

How can I see exactly when they’re landing? Still looks like they’re in the air.

Only accurate way is FlightRadar24.com

ELAL deliberately feeds false (or non-current) data to various publicly available departure/landing time sources. FlightRadar24 actually shows you where the aircraft is (as long as it's trackable).

GAM Z. · « **Reply #607 on:** July 26, 2018, 03:11:58 PM »

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Quote from: ExGingi on July 26, 2018, 10:58:45 AM

Only accurate way is FlightRadar24.com

ELAL deliberately feeds false (or non-current) data to various publicly available departure/landing time sources. FlightRadar24 actually shows you where the aircraft is (as long as it's trackable).

Is this for security reasons?

ludmila · « **Reply #608 on:** July 26, 2018, 03:31:51 PM »

Quote from: GAM Z. on July 26, 2018, 03:11:58 PM

[/b]Is this for security reasons?

I think it is for security reasons.

ExGingi · « **Reply #609 on:** July 26, 2018, 05:19:20 PM »

Quote from: ludmila on July 26, 2018, 03:31:51 PM

I think it is for security reasons.

That is such outdated thinking.

In the age of FlightRadar24.com, why would they even care to do it like that. If someone really wants to know where an aircraft is, it easily doable in today's day and age. This is in line with ELAL's corporate DNA, not looking to change things, just preserve and build on top of what was there (at best).

yandmk · « **Reply #610 on:** July 26, 2018, 06:16:23 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on July 26, 2018, 05:19:20 PM

That is such outdated thinking.

In the age of FlightRadar24.com, why would they even care to do it like that. If someone really wants to know where an aircraft is, it easily doable in today's day and age. This is in line with ELAL's corporate DNA, not looking to change things, just preserve and build on top of what was there (at best).

I love the way you guys are getting carried away by one assumption built on another.
I haven't noticed El Al being less accurate than other airlines. But even if it was the case, noone ever said that it's intentionally done. One person decided that he think so, another decided to assume it's probably for security, and you already figured out that it's cause is bad DNA.....

ExGingi · « **Reply #611 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:00:15 PM »

Quote from: yandmk on July 26, 2018, 06:16:23 PM

I love the way you guys are getting carried away by one assumption built on another.
I haven't noticed El Al being less accurate than other airlines. But even if it was the case, noone ever said that it's intentionally done. One person decided that he think so, another decided to assume it's probably for security, and you already figured out that it's cause is bad DNA.....

Well maybe you never checked ELAL. Do they provide up to date flight arrival information on their website or by phone.

yandmk · « **Reply #612 on:** July 26, 2018, 10:31:51 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on July 26, 2018, 10:00:15 PM

Well maybe you never checked ELAL. Do they provide up to date flight arrival information on their website or by phone.

What do you know about El Al? Haven't you boycotted (BDS?) them many years ago?
Yes, being that I'm a TA, and I've booked hundreds of people on El Al over the years, I've checked the flight status quite a bit more often than your honor.
Secondly, what does their site have to do with anything? It's no secret that it needs to be updated. But this info is available across dozens of flight tracking sites.
Thirdly, they DO have flight status on their site. Click the tab המראות ונחיתות
https://www.elal.com/he/PassengersInfo/Useful-Info/Flight-Schedule/Pages/Flight-Updates.aspx?FlightsUpdates=True
(English page https://www.elal.com/en/PassengersInfo/Useful-Info/Flight-Schedule/Pages/Flight-Updates.aspx?FlightsUpdates=True )

ExGingi · « **Reply #613 on:** July 27, 2018, 01:42:51 AM »

Quote from: yandmk on July 26, 2018, 10:31:51 PM

What do you know about El Al? Haven't you boycotted (BDS?) them many years ago?

Ahem... Checking flight arrivals is usually done by a person that is not on the flight.

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Yes, being that I'm a TA, and I've booked hundreds of people on El Al over the years, I've checked the flight status quite a bit more often than your honor.

I stand corrected.

And thereby might be the source of my perception. In the few times when I did attempt to check LY arrival times for family members arriving, I saw huge discrepancies between reported times and what FR24 showed. You probably have many more DPs and might see it as something that doesn't happen all the time.

Though using the links you provided I did the following spot check (which I wouldn't consider egregious, but nonetheless off) should really check something close to landing.

tavster · « **Reply #614 on:** July 30, 2018, 11:10:14 AM »

https://www.travelport.com/company/media-center/press-releases/2018-07-30/el-al-joins-over-260-airlines-driving-sales

Any implications for travel agents or it's just for the airline?

jose34 · « **Reply #615 on:** August 01, 2018, 07:39:34 AM »

El Al Unveils 1960s-Inspired Retro Livery on Its Newest 787

https://thepointsguy.com/news/el-al-1960s-retro-787-dreamliner/

Looks really cool.

Any to find out which routes it will fly?

Yaalili · « **Reply #616 on:** August 01, 2018, 10:48:30 AM »

Quote from: jose34 on August 01, 2018, 07:39:34 AM

El Al Unveils 1960s-Inspired Retro Livery on Its Newest 787

https://thepointsguy.com/news/el-al-1960s-retro-787-dreamliner/

Looks really cool.

Any to find out which routes it will fly?

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=75335.msg1963592#msg1963592

mlomni · « **Reply #617 on:** August 15, 2018, 10:14:31 AM »

Can anyone advise what the ElAl process is when dropping off an unaccompanied minor at EWR? Some airlines give you a terminal pass to escort the minor to the gate. it does not look like Elal has that option.

etech0 · « **Reply #618 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:31:47 PM »

Does anyone know if there is a contact number for Matmid?

zagguru · « **Reply #619 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:26:23 AM »

If you book PE and they change the aircraft to 747, what seat do you get?