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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #260 on: December 15, 2016, 08:26:28 AM »
Probably has to do with younger generation speaking much better english
Not a chance.

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #261 on: December 15, 2016, 08:36:26 AM »
Correct but it is also a training and hiring issue.
Did you ever notice that there are almost no middle age people in the Israeli service industry? It's mostly high school or collage age people who are only working in that job until they move on to something better. They feel like they don't really have to treat you well since they are planing on moving on soon.
Did you ever see a 45 year old FA in Elal coach? Other airlines have plenty of middle aged FA's who have been doing the job for 5, 10, 20 years and view it as a real profession.
ELAL has been on my do-not-fly list since February 2000, so I don't have any recent experience.
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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #262 on: December 15, 2016, 08:46:43 AM »
+1
Someone who flew Hainan to Beijing on a brand new A330 or Cathy to Hong Kong on a brand new A350 might return to ELAL if they get new planes but ONLY if they start training their staff to provide service in a way that you don't feel like they are doing you a favor after you spent double to fly with them!!!

But this is exactly the country your flying to. When you walk into any store in Israel you get the feeling like your doing them the favor.....Its a culture thing and the only way to change is for them to hire Asian FA :)

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #263 on: December 15, 2016, 09:09:11 AM »
But this is exactly the country your flying to. When you walk into any store in Israel you get the feeling like your doing them the favor.....Its a culture thing and the only way to change is for them to hire Asian FA :)
Which might be a contributing factor in me not flying there other than for family reasons ;) (which in recent years have become more frequent).

Also, how about hire a different CEO (of the Gordon Bethune type). As they say in Hebrew הדג מסריח מהראש!
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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #264 on: December 15, 2016, 11:32:26 AM »
But this is exactly the country your flying to. When you walk into any store in Israel you get the feeling like your doing them the favor.....Its a culture thing and the only way to change is for them to hire Asian FA :)
Nothing captures it better than: It's not just the airline, it's Israel!

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #265 on: December 15, 2016, 01:02:26 PM »
Maybe they should hire Charedi FA's

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #266 on: December 20, 2016, 08:23:26 PM »
Nothing captures it better than: It's not just the airline, it's Israel!
I always say El Al's motto should be tweaked to:  It's not an airline, it's Israel.

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #267 on: December 20, 2016, 08:41:10 PM »
I always say El Al's motto should be tweaked to:  It's not an airline, it's Israel.
Said like a real Yekke  ;)
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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #268 on: December 20, 2016, 10:20:23 PM »
Whats up with that emergency landing tonight, was there really an engine fire?

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #269 on: December 20, 2016, 10:39:10 PM »
Whats up with that emergency landing tonight, was there really an engine fire?
I was looking for a thread on that.
Any info about it? I heard the 1:37 clip from ATC but what exactly happened?

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #270 on: December 24, 2016, 08:14:34 PM »
I might be wrong, but it seems that if you want to book Premium Economy on ElAl, you need to book regular economy and then go in and upgrade. Is there a way to know if PE seats are actually open before booking the regular seats?

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #271 on: December 25, 2016, 12:52:51 AM »
No. LY does not have premium economy buckets. They sell everything as economy and you can purchase at extra cost economy plus. Same way UA works.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #272 on: December 25, 2016, 04:35:36 PM »
No. LY does not have premium economy buckets. They sell everything as economy and you can purchase at extra cost economy plus. Same way UA works.

Has anyone ever flown the premium economy on the Elal 767-300? Is it worth the upgrade? we are flying with young  kids, so anything to make the trip easier....

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Re: Elal airlines
« Reply #273 on: December 26, 2016, 03:07:52 AM »
My mother-in-law flew it and I've seen it first-hand on the plane.  It certainly doesn't compare to most competing premium economy cabins, but it's still better than regular economy.  A little more leg room and recline.  Same meal, same luggage policy.

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #274 on: January 08, 2017, 08:29:38 PM »
I am flying in/out of BOSTON on El Al soon.  I do not think there is seat back entertainment on their 767's. Anyone flown that route recently to confirm?  Do they have streaming on those planes (like they say on their website) and if so does it actually work?

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #275 on: January 08, 2017, 08:46:00 PM »
I am flying in/out of BOSTON on El Al soon.  I do not think there is seat back entertainment on their 767's. Anyone flown that route recently to confirm?  Do they have streaming on those planes (like they say on their website) and if so does it actually work?

Daughter just got back from Israel in Nov on the TLV-BOS flight. She just confirmed that in Y there is no seatback entertainment. There are small cathode-ray tube-type television monitors in the aisles but she said they were too small to see anything.  IIRC, in J, they provide iPads. She said the FAs didn't inform them of any ability to stream on their own devices.   Are you sure you have to fly on El Al??? :)

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #276 on: January 08, 2017, 10:38:55 PM »
Daughter just got back from Israel in Nov on the TLV-BOS flight. She just confirmed that in Y there is no seatback entertainment. There are small cathode-ray tube-type television monitors in the aisles but she said they were too small to see anything.  IIRC, in J, they provide iPads. She said the FAs didn't inform them of any ability to stream on their own devices.   Are you sure you have to fly on El Al??? :)
Yup- booked :). Wonder if the Nov flight was the Spanish leased flight? El Al's website and in-flight magazine mention streaming. I need to have faith......

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #277 on: January 08, 2017, 10:46:24 PM »
Yup- booked :). Wonder if the Nov flight was the Spanish leased flight? El Al's website and in-flight magazine mention streaming. I need to have faith......
No, neither her August nor her Nov flights was Spanish leased.  I suppose it's possible they fly more than one plane on that route. I just always figured it was the same 767 back and forth.
At least it's non stop. And at least the food is kosher. Maybe the IFE will pleasantly surprise?
 :)

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #278 on: January 09, 2017, 04:37:55 AM »
Surprise. Surprise. Look who got to be #1 (hint: it ain't flattering) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-09/the-best-and-worst-airlines-in-the-world
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: EL AL
« Reply #279 on: January 09, 2017, 06:24:05 AM »
I flew BOS-TLV and it actually did have streaming -- so maybe the equipment isn't always the same?  This was over a year ago...