Author Topic: EL AL (Read 668076 times)

tavster · « **Reply #720 on:** October 15, 2018, 01:25:45 PM »

Quote from: Sam Finkelstein on October 15, 2018, 01:22:05 PM

Anyone know about how long it takes from landing to curb on the flight from Los Angeles? Israeli passport and checked bags.

TIA.

Did it last month. 15mn

Ploni3 · « **Reply #721 on:** October 15, 2018, 01:29:27 PM »

Assume 5 - 10 minutes from landing to gate. After that, it will depend on (a) how long it takes you to get off the plane (2-5 minutes for 1st/Bus; up to 10/15 minutes for others); how long it takes you to walk to passport control (you could jog it in 3-4 minutes but a leisurely walk is 5-10 minutes; how long the line is at passport (0-60 minutes based on my experience - no way, rhyme or reason to predict IF YOU HAVE ISRAELI PASSPORT, YOU CAN USE THE BIOMETRIC MACHINES, IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE AND CUT THAT TO 2 MINUTES); and waiting for bags. Recently I have found them to be on the belt by 15/20 minutes post landing. Of course, if border control or customs has an issue, they can always hold you up indefinitely.
So...best scenario you may be out in less than half an hour but usually closer to an hour or more.
Just my experience.

tavster · « **Reply #722 on:** October 15, 2018, 01:36:05 PM »

Quote from: tavster on October 15, 2018, 01:25:45 PM

Did it last month. 15mn

It's indeed a best case scenario because I was flying F, so I was first person out of the plane and there was no line at immigration

Sam Finkelstein · « **Reply #723 on:** October 15, 2018, 01:38:19 PM »

Thanks!

yandmk · « **Reply #724 on:** October 15, 2018, 02:02:58 PM »

Quote from: Ploni3 on October 15, 2018, 01:29:27 PM

Assume 5 - 10 minutes from landing to gate. After that, it will depend on (a) how long it takes you to get off the plane (2-5 minutes for 1st/Bus; up to 10/15 minutes for others); how long it takes you to walk to passport control (you could jog it in 3-4 minutes but a leisurely walk is 5-10 minutes; how long the line is at passport (0-60 minutes based on my experience - no way, rhyme or reason to predict IF YOU HAVE ISRAELI PASSPORT, YOU CAN USE THE BIOMETRIC MACHINES, IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE AND CUT THAT TO 2 MINUTES); and waiting for bags. Recently I have found them to be on the belt by 15/20 minutes post landing. Of course, if border control or customs has an issue, they can always hold you up indefinitely.
So...best scenario you may be out in less than half an hour but usually closer to an hour or more.
Just my experience.

I don't believe double aisle aircraft are ever loaded onto busses. IME, it's always straight into the terminal.

yandmk · « **Reply #725 on:** October 15, 2018, 02:23:51 PM »

Is this considered a good deal?

damaxer91 · « **Reply #726 on:** October 15, 2018, 02:40:32 PM »

Quote from: yandmk on October 15, 2018, 02:23:51 PM

Is this considered a good deal?

nothing special

lindnuck · « **Reply #727 on:** October 15, 2018, 03:27:38 PM »

Just booked a Qantas redemption for El Al in J and the only thing I can seem to do on El Al's website is change my meal preference. No seat changes (or even assignments), nor entering info like my Known Traveler or PP.

Does El Al insist you call for these things, or did I miss something?

chaim0m · « **Reply #728 on:** October 15, 2018, 03:40:09 PM »

Quote from: Ploni3 on October 15, 2018, 01:29:27 PM

Assume 5 - 10 minutes from landing to gate. After that, it will depend on (a) how long it takes you to get off the plane (2-5 minutes for 1st/Bus; up to 10/15 minutes for others); how long it takes you to walk to passport control (you could jog it in 3-4 minutes but a leisurely walk is 5-10 minutes; how long the line is at passport (0-60 minutes based on my experience - no way, rhyme or reason to predict IF YOU HAVE ISRAELI PASSPORT, YOU CAN USE THE BIOMETRIC MACHINES, IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE AND CUT THAT TO 2 MINUTES); and waiting for bags. Recently I have found them to be on the belt by 15/20 minutes post landing. Of course, if border control or customs has an issue, they can always hold you up indefinitely.
So...best scenario you may be out in less than half an hour but usually closer to an hour or more.
Just my experience.

If he has biometric there are a set of four machines very early about 2 minutes before the ramp down to passport control. Use that there is never a line, you get the slip and walk right through takes 30 seconds.

shapsam · « **Reply #729 on:** October 15, 2018, 03:43:40 PM »

Quote from: lindnuck on October 15, 2018, 03:27:38 PM

Just booked a Qantas redemption for El Al in J and the only thing I can seem to do on El Al's website is change my meal preference. No seat changes (or even assignments), nor entering info like my Known Traveler or PP.

Does El Al insist you call for these things, or did I miss something?

You have to call.

lindnuck · « **Reply #730 on:** October 15, 2018, 03:50:18 PM »

Quote from: shapsam on October 15, 2018, 03:43:40 PM

You have to call.

Thanks. What a giant waste of time, but I guess they like to make things as annoying as possible.

yandmk · « **Reply #731 on:** October 15, 2018, 03:55:08 PM »

Quote from: lindnuck on October 15, 2018, 03:50:18 PM

Thanks. What a giant waste of time, but I guess they like to make things as annoying as possible.

It's a bug for bookings via certain agencies. UR bookings is one of them. But many TA bookings can be managed online.

zow · « **Reply #732 on:** October 15, 2018, 04:40:11 PM »

Is there any way to enter Qantas FFN to a LY record online, or must I PUTPAC?

chff · « **Reply #733 on:** October 15, 2018, 05:57:21 PM »

Quote from: lindnuck on October 15, 2018, 03:27:38 PM

Just booked a Qantas redemption for El Al in J and the only thing I can seem to do on El Al's website is change my meal preference. No seat changes (or even assignments), nor entering info like my Known Traveler or PP.

Does El Al insist you call for these things, or did I miss something?

why do you need to add you KTN? LY is not a partner

lindnuck · « **Reply #734 on:** October 15, 2018, 06:31:13 PM »

Quote from: chff on October 15, 2018, 05:57:21 PM

why do you need to add you KTN? LY is not a partner

I figured while I was doing it I would offer it, and they said they collect Global Entry info for flights into the US, which this is. So I gave it to them. It now appears on my reservation when I view it on elal.com

ExGingi · « **Reply #735 on:** October 16, 2018, 01:46:00 PM »

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/El-Al-introduces-new-European-flight-model-closes-low-cost-brand-Up-569434

Sam Finkelstein · « **Reply #736 on:** October 16, 2018, 04:33:32 PM »

Booked a flight to Europe on El Al. Now I realize there’s no checked bag. Will they still weigh my carry-on?

shimino1 · « **Reply #737 on:** October 16, 2018, 05:08:14 PM »

Quote from: Sam Finkelstein on October 16, 2018, 04:33:32 PM

Booked a flight to Europe on El Al. Now I realize there’s no checked bag. Will they still weigh my carry-on?

Yes if you make the dumb mistake of going up to the check in desk.
Check in online before the flight or use the automatic kiosk at the airport, print out your boarding pass and proceed straight to security

Sam Finkelstein · « **Reply #738 on:** October 16, 2018, 05:15:09 PM »

Quote from: shimino1 on October 16, 2018, 05:08:14 PM

Yes if you make the dumb mistake of going up to the check in desk.
Check in online before the flight or use the automatic kiosk at the airport, print out your boarding pass and proceed straight to security

Thanks! Forgot about that.

Sam Finkelstein · « **Reply #739 on:** October 16, 2018, 05:37:33 PM »

Quote from: shimino1 on October 16, 2018, 05:08:14 PM

Yes if you make the dumb mistake of going up to the check in desk.
Check in online before the flight or use the automatic kiosk at the airport, print out your boarding pass and proceed straight to security

Quote from: Sam Finkelstein on October 16, 2018, 05:15:09 PM

Thanks! Forgot about that.

And by security, you mean the metal detectors or the queue before the counters? And I just skip the counters?