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joey89 · « **Reply #880 on:** February 28, 2019, 11:33:13 PM »

Quote from: Dan on February 28, 2019, 11:17:41 PM

I posted before it departed, but how much time will it take pax to go through customs and take a cab to Jlem...
LY refused to let anyone off the plane.
Sadly, people will never learn.

Truly astounding that the lesson will never be learned.
Even if you book the flight no one is forcing you to board if it is delayed several hours.
"It will never happen to me" (where else have we seen this attitude recently

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ExGingi · « **Reply #881 on:** February 28, 2019, 11:34:48 PM »

Quote from: Dan on February 28, 2019, 11:17:41 PM

I posted before it departed, but how much time will it take pax to go through customs and take a cab to Jlem...

IDK. Presumably they will help people speed things up. Who says they're going to Jlem, could be heading elsewhere. Doesn't make things better. And doesn't justify potentially taking a Jewish cab driver that will drop them off just before sunset and have no choice but to drive on Shabbos after dropping the passengers off.

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LY refused to let anyone off the plane.
Sadly, people will never learn.

Unfortunately, I have to side with ELAL on this one. Why should they almost definitely cause additional chilul Shabbos for other passengers just because some passengers did the irresponsible thing and booked themselves on a Thursday evening flight from NY to TLV.

I really think they should have every passenger boarding these flights sign an acknowledgement and waiver.

Dan · « **Reply #882 on:** February 28, 2019, 11:37:00 PM »

Quote from: joey89 on February 28, 2019, 11:33:13 PM

Truly astounding that the lesson will never be learned.
Even if you book the flight no one is forcing you to board if it is delayed several hours.
"It will never happen to me" (where else have we seen this attitude recently )

What time did this flight board?

joey89 · « **Reply #883 on:** February 28, 2019, 11:40:52 PM »

Quote from: Dan on February 28, 2019, 11:37:00 PM

What time did this flight board?

No idea, however if the flight left 5 hours late wouldn't that mean that they boarded at least 2 hours late. (working under the assumption that max tarmac delay allowed is 3 hours)

chinagel · « **Reply #884 on:** March 01, 2019, 12:17:13 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on February 28, 2019, 11:34:48 PM

Unfortunately, I have to side with ELAL on this one. Why should they almost definitely cause additional chilul Shabbos for other passengers just because some passengers did the irresponsible thing and booked themselves on a Thursday evening flight from NY to TLV.

LOL to ELAL worrying about causing additional chilul shabbos.

elya · « **Reply #885 on:** March 01, 2019, 12:25:47 AM »

Quote from: Dan on February 28, 2019, 11:17:41 PM

LY refused to let anyone off the plane.

Insane!

ExGingi · « **Reply #886 on:** March 01, 2019, 12:31:03 AM »

Quote from: elya on March 01, 2019, 12:25:47 AM

Insane!

No sir. The insane part is that people that presumably care about Shabbos booked and boarded this flight, and then thought they have a right to request to deplane which would cause extra delays for many people.

Proisrael · « **Reply #887 on:** March 01, 2019, 01:23:53 AM »

Seems like their speed is a lot faster then usual and they should land with plenty of time for shabbos. This time they might get lucky

tavster · « **Reply #888 on:** March 01, 2019, 02:02:47 AM »

Quote from: joey89 on February 28, 2019, 11:33:13 PM

Truly astounding that the lesson will never be learned.

I flew NYC-TLV on LY on the last 2 Wednesdays and I have to say that the proportion of haredim was significantly larger than usual.

So it's pretty fair to say that things are changing and people are starting to understand that flying on Thursday is not an option

eliraps · « **Reply #889 on:** March 01, 2019, 05:00:14 AM »

Quote from: Dan on February 28, 2019, 11:17:41 PM

I posted before it departed, but how much time will it take pax to go through customs and take a cab to Jlem...
LY refused to let anyone off the plane.
Sadly, people will never learn.

My cousin 20 yr old passed away on Thursday morning

. Before He passed He requested they bury him in EY. He is in the bottom of that plane. His family are all on top...

eliraps · « **Reply #890 on:** March 01, 2019, 05:01:43 AM »

Hope they are still able to make a levaya b4 Shabos

tavster · « **Reply #891 on:** March 01, 2019, 05:51:49 AM »

Quote from: eliraps on March 01, 2019, 05:01:43 AM

Hope they are still able to make a levaya b4 Shabos

BDE

joey89 · « **Reply #892 on:** March 01, 2019, 08:38:14 AM »

Quote from: eliraps on March 01, 2019, 05:00:14 AM

My cousin 20 yr old passed away on Thursday morning . Before He passed He requested they bury him in EY. He is in the bottom of that plane. His family are all on top...

BDE, sorry for your loss

ExGingi · « **Reply #893 on:** March 01, 2019, 08:55:24 AM »

Quote from: eliraps on March 01, 2019, 05:00:14 AM

My cousin 20 yr old passed away on Thursday morning . Before He passed He requested they bury him in EY. He is in the bottom of that plane. His family are all on top...

BDE.

That's terrible.

And on top of their tragedy, to be stressed by the delayed flight. I just hope that in the past 19 years ELAL learned how to act in a sensitive way to bereaved family on their way to a loved one's funeral.

eliraps · « **Reply #894 on:** March 01, 2019, 10:20:46 AM »

They arrived at har hazeisim at 435!

Why 19 years?

ExGingi · « **Reply #895 on:** March 01, 2019, 10:58:11 AM »

Quote from: eliraps on March 01, 2019, 10:20:46 AM

Why 19 years?

Because that's when my personal experience is from.

th0306 · « **Reply #896 on:** March 01, 2019, 11:14:10 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 01, 2019, 10:58:11 AM

Because that's when my personal experience is from.

Link?

ExGingi · « **Reply #897 on:** March 01, 2019, 11:15:02 AM »

Quote from: th0306 on March 01, 2019, 11:14:10 AM

Link?

Ast @TimT, I've written about on DDF.

TimT · « **Reply #898 on:** March 01, 2019, 11:20:56 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 01, 2019, 11:15:02 AM

Ast @TimT, I've written about on DDF.

Quote from: ExGingi on October 29, 2016, 09:40:11 PM

Flight was landing about an hour before sunset. Levaya was waiting for me, and if we had missed sunset shiva would be extended by another day. I had an exit row seat, but my wife had a seat a few rows away. I asked flight attendant to please allow us off ahead of everyone else, and got such an inconsiderate and rude response, that the non-frum person sitting next to me felt compelled to rebuke the flight attendant for lack of sensitivity.

ExGingi · « **Reply #899 on:** March 01, 2019, 11:33:13 AM »

Quote from: TimT on March 01, 2019, 11:20:56 AM

More reliable than a Swiss watch!