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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2961 on: November 19, 2023, 05:40:46 PM »
Just curious as why tickets are so expensive. I understand that Elal is the only airline flying there so they kind of have a monopoly.....
The average coach class ticket is approx $1600-$1800 which is almost double for winter time. (usually around $900-$1000)
Friends that just flew said the flights are bit more then 3/4 full, so they are not flying empty nor are they overfull...

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2962 on: November 19, 2023, 06:01:10 PM »
Just curious as why tickets are so expensive. I understand that Elal is the only airline flying there so they kind of have a monopoly.....
The average coach class ticket is approx $1600-$1800 which is almost double for winter time. (usually around $900-$1000)
Friends that just flew said the flights are bit more then 3/4 full, so they are not flying empty nor are they overfull...
People who are traveling now to Israel aren't price sensitive. From a business perspective, the pricing makes sense.
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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2963 on: November 19, 2023, 07:25:30 PM »
Just curious as why tickets are so expensive. I understand that Elal is the only airline flying there so they kind of have a monopoly.....
The average coach class ticket is approx $1600-$1800 which is almost double for winter time. (usually around $900-$1000)
Friends that just flew said the flights are bit more then 3/4 full, so they are not flying empty nor are they overfull...
Every plane is packed. Canít get a ticket only waitlisted. For past couple of weeks at least

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2964 on: November 19, 2023, 08:34:39 PM »
Every plane is packed. Canít get a ticket only waitlisted. For past couple of weeks at least
Not sure what dates you tried but I was able to get seats everyday that I check int he upcoming few weeks...

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2965 on: November 19, 2023, 09:27:27 PM »
Talking about last week. Not one seat available. They added flights. And thise were packed as well. If you need a ticket, donít recommend waiting to the last minute

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2966 on: November 20, 2023, 09:02:53 AM »
Have ELAL tickets for next week which I would love to cancel. They just changed my flight schedule from 11:50 PM to 12:20 AM following morning. Would that give me the opportunity to get a monetary refund as opposed to a voucher or am I wasting my time?

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2967 on: November 20, 2023, 09:16:05 AM »
Have ELAL tickets for next week which I would love to cancel. They just changed my flight schedule from 11:50 PM to 12:20 AM following morning. Would that give me the opportunity to get a monetary refund as opposed to a voucher or am I wasting my time?
A half hour delay?
No that wouldn't cut it

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2968 on: November 20, 2023, 01:37:43 PM »
Just curious as why tickets are so expensive. I understand that Elal is the only airline flying there so they kind of have a monopoly.....
The average coach class ticket is approx $1600-$1800 which is almost double for winter time. (usually around $900-$1000)
Friends that just flew said the flights are bit more then 3/4 full, so they are not flying empty nor are they overfull...
If you look at tickets later in the winter, I'm seeing most tickets between $800-900.
As Dan mentioned people fly now aren't vacationers.

Additionally, there were many Whats apps going around a few weeks ago from travel agents saying how not only did Elal not price gauge (and they were the only airline) people in there time of need when people were having a hard time getting back home to either Israel or Chutz laretz, they didn't even raise prices and they were doing set prices at some point for some flights. They were also adding flights.
So yes, now if you want to book a tickets to fly within the next few weeks the prices are more expensive and rightfully so, but lets give the credit where credit is due.

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2969 on: November 20, 2023, 01:45:49 PM »
Now, onto my question I have  :)
Im looking to book Elal tickets for my family for Feb. for a family Simcha (and yes tickets are $850-$900 BH). I want to book through Chase UR with CSR points- what are the downsides to booking with them and not direct with Elal?

Thank you!

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2970 on: November 20, 2023, 02:33:44 PM »
Just curious as why tickets are so expensive. I understand that Elal is the only airline flying there so they kind of have a monopoly.....
The average coach class ticket is approx $1600-$1800 which is almost double for winter time. (usually around $900-$1000)
Friends that just flew said the flights are bit more then 3/4 full, so they are not flying empty nor are they overfull...
i'm flying next week. We had a trip planned that we pivoted to a volunteer trip. The tickets before succos for next week were $800 for coach

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2971 on: November 20, 2023, 02:56:09 PM »
LY flights from NY are $535 OW in February.
On another note, I got a text from LY asking me to confirm if I intend on taking a flight booked for next week. I guess itís a smart way to minimize last minute changes.

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2972 on: November 20, 2023, 04:12:48 PM »
Friends that just flew said the flights are bit more then 3/4 full, so they are not flying empty nor are they overfull...
I just flew rt last week and flights were just about full both ways... (Business completely full, Premium had a couple seats available for $500 upgrade, 1 extra leg room seat available for $100)

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2973 on: November 20, 2023, 09:50:02 PM »
Talking about last week. Not one seat available. They added flights. And thise were packed as well. If you need a ticket, donít recommend waiting to the last minute

#visafreetravel

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2974 on: November 20, 2023, 10:13:30 PM »
#visafreetravel
B"H! ;D

4 different friends went on different days last two weeks and all said that appeared to be some 10+ empty seats on the way there
and way back appeared to be a bit more empty seats.
Just checked matrix for 9 passengers and pretty much had availability every day next 3 weeks.
Regardless my point wasn't if they are full or not, was rather that the prices went up 60% and it is not because they are oversold.
I am not trying to imply price gouging as the whole airline industry is one big price gouge when they can (algorithms...etc).

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2975 on: November 21, 2023, 01:37:44 PM »
Flying LY ex-NYC - whats the difference between strictly kosher and regular kosher in J?

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2976 on: November 21, 2023, 01:43:48 PM »
Flying LY ex-NYC - whats the difference between strictly kosher and regular kosher in J?
All LY meals are "regular kosher." There is no supervision after they leave the kitchen and they aren't double wrapped for warming.
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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2977 on: November 21, 2023, 01:46:13 PM »
All LY meals are "regular kosher." There is no supervision after they leave the kitchen and they aren't double wrapped for warming.

So practically speaking, no difference between the two from a kashrus perspective?

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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2978 on: November 21, 2023, 01:47:59 PM »
So practically speaking, no difference between the two from a kashrus perspective?
Who said that?
Nobody is checking if LY FAs warm up treif food in their ovens.
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Re: EL AL
« Reply #2979 on: November 21, 2023, 01:48:55 PM »
Who said that?

Iím asking because Iím in the air right now and didnít think to reserve a ďstrictly kosherĒ mealÖ