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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2016, 12:31:41 AM »
I agree with that; I'm just pointing out that this is incorrect, she's not saying its canon:

She's saying you can fit it into the canon - which at best, is only possible with
a very tortured reading of the books.

I disagree with your limitation in the usage. That's what you'd call the etymology of the phrase, it doesn't have to define it. I still think it's canon that she's white, just not necessarily from there alone.

That's an interesting idea. Can you give an example of a good author that uses that phrase to describe a black person being scared? I don't think the phrase has reached the point of being a synonym for "scared," but I'm willing to accept that I might be wrong.

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2016, 12:36:04 AM »
She's saying that Hermione in the book could have been black.
Except she can't without a very tortured reading of the books.
I wouldnt say a very tortured reading.  Its a couple of lines that suggest that shes white out of the thousands of pages in the series. 
That being said, I do agree that she handled it poorly.  could have easily just said that its an interpretation. 

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2016, 01:24:21 AM »
How come no one mentioned that hermione's parents were dentists I for one have never met a black dentist

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2016, 01:32:34 AM »
How come no one mentioned that hermione's parents were dentists I for one have never met a black dentist

White witches, on the other hand ;)....
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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2016, 01:34:08 AM »
White witches, on the other hand ;)....
Well being dentists is from an aspect of the book that is supposed to be understood by those in the non magical world

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2016, 06:27:43 AM »
How come no one mentioned that hermione's parents were dentists I for one have never met a black dentist

ALOL!

I'm sick of everyone bending over backwards to be PC and inclusive and all. Just be real. I have no problem with a black actor but you can't say that hermoine was originally imagined as black. Skin color shouldn't matter either way, but JK shouldn't have to pretend that some of the characters may be black (or purple, or green, or rainbow colored)

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2016, 07:24:51 AM »
How come no one mentioned that hermione's parents were dentists I for one have never met a black dentist
http://www.dentistryiq.com/articles/wdj/2004/02/dentistry-in-the-african-american-community.html

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2016, 10:31:07 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2016/jun/05/harry-potter-jk--rowling-black-hermione

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While the vast majority of people responded positively to the casting decision, Rowling said: “I had a bunch of racists telling me that because Hermione ‘turned white’ – that is, lost colour from her face after a shock – that she must be a white woman, which I have a great deal of difficulty with. But I decided not to get too agitated about it and simply state quite firmly that Hermione can be a black woman with my absolute blessing and enthusiasm.”

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2016, 10:37:08 PM »
Racists  :o ::)
And she ignores the "very brown" description.
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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2016, 10:38:21 PM »
Wow. She's really handling this poorly.
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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2016, 10:42:58 PM »
Wow. She's really handling this poorly.
It's ridiculous.
99% of people couldn't care less if the actress is black or white. Just admit that it's a new interpretation vis-a-vis the books and movies rather than try to make it fit in when it doesn't.
She just keeps digging herself in deeper.
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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #56 on: June 07, 2016, 04:02:20 PM »
The scary part is that the majority of the world probably supports her on this.

Not scary because of the impact on the Harry Potter saga, but scary because of what it says about the world we live in.

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2016, 04:06:06 PM »
Next week, Hermione is gonna be a male.

Just because there are a hundred episodes of her going out with a boy, going into the girls bathroom, and generally being described as a female doesn't mean nuttin', you discriminatory pigs!
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2016, 04:06:39 PM »
The scary part is that the majority of the world probably supports her on this.

Not scary because of the impact on the Harry Potter saga, but scary because of what it says about the world we live in.

And what does it say about the world we live in?

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Re: Harry Potter And The Cursed Child In London
« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2016, 04:09:28 PM »
And what does it say about the world we live in?
That political correctness trumps intelligence and common sense. These are the same people that would faster molest a grandma in the airport than a 25 year old male Arab.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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