Starbucks testing Cholov Yisroel in 10 stores

[Iz]

By the way, just wondering, for those who rely on USDA in place of keeping cholov Yisrael, is that only for sealed containers? I mean, the USDA is at the farm, they're not at the restaurant.

Correct. A sealed bottle of "Cholov Companies" is better than an open bottle that says CY on the label (unless there are other mitigating factors...).

[whacked1]

I'm assuming this service is only for someone that is mapkid on c'y and purchasing a beverage that the utensils dont get cleaned in dishwasher (or together with anything used for non-kosher)?

[Sport]

You're technically correct.

By the way, just wondering, for those who rely on USDA in place of keeping cholov Yisrael, is that only for sealed containers? I mean, the USDA is at the farm, they're not at the restaurant.

Interesting question.

Fda is probably a better shmira than the usda.

[cholent]

Rabbi Elefant says it's a difficult question, didn't give me a further answer

[aygart]

Rabbi Elefant says it's a difficult question, didn't give me any answer

FTFY

[Freddie]

I'm assuming this service is only for someone that is mapkid on c'y and purchasing a beverage that the utensils dont get cleaned in dishwasher (or together with anything used for non-kosher)?

For sure it doesn't help with keylim. But even just for pouring some cold milk into a plain coffee it doesn't help. Like we've been saying, once it's opened, the milk is worthless as CY unless there's hashgacha.

[elit]

You're technically correct.

By the way, just wondering, for those who rely on USDA in place of keeping cholov Yisrael, is that only for sealed containers? I mean, the USDA is at the farm, they're not at the restaurant.

Interesting question.

Huh? What would someone put in the open container? Non usda milk? Where would they get that from?

[3yummyboys]

Huh? What would someone put in the open container? Non usda milk? Where would they get that from?

We stayed on a farm and had exactly that. They gave us fresh milk from a cow in a milk bottle.

[aygart]

We stayed on a farm and had exactly that. They gave us fresh milk from a cow in a milk bottle.

not exactly a concern at Starbucks

[elit]

not exactly a concern at Starbucks

+1

[ilherman]

It's not colov Yisroel once the bottle is opened...

So you have no idea what CY means.....

[chulent613]

So you have no idea what CY means.....

Care to elaborate?

[3yummyboys]

not exactly a concern at Starbucks

You never know if they have a cow in the back for when they run out of milk

[aygart]

You never know if they have a cow in the back for when they run out of milk

Sometimes you do

[skyguy918]

So you have no idea what CY means.....

Would you feel better if he'd said that one can't know that it's CY if you find it open in the store (and their it's no better than CS)?

[Freddie]

Nu, stop nitpicking, guys. The point that we all agree on is that once the container is opened and unsupervised then whatever advantage the little "cholov yisroel" label once gave it is now worthless.

[churnbabychurn]

You never know if they have a camel in the back for when they run out of milk

ftfy

[Myccrabbi]

http://jpupdates.com/2016/06/08/starbucks-testing-kosher-certified-dairy-at-10-stores-in-ny-nj-in-bid-to-attract-jewish-customers/

List of stores:
316 Rockaway Turnpike, Cedarhurst, NY
1344 Broadway, Hewlett, NY
4701 Route 9 Space T1B, Howell NJ
2100 Highway, Oakhurst, NJ
1865 Route 70, Lakewood, NJ
2860 Lakewood RD, Toms River, NJ
1927 Flatbush Avenue, Brooklyn, NY
341 Eastern Parkway, Brooklyn, NY
166 7th Avenue, Brooklyn, NY
164 Park Place, Brooklyn, NY

Oh man, no monsey location...
 Super weak!
Btw how the hell did this whole thread become a CY topic?

[ilherman]

Care to elaborate?

It's possible that it becomes a Shayleh of בשר שנתעלם מן העין but CY does not come in to play.

If a Jew was there when they milked the cow then it's CY.

[tzifanya54]

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that.

Frankly, I'm surprised that anybody at all relies on that. But I'm not from Monsey.

Yes, that is what I meant and many many people rely on it being ok... I personally would not drink it unless it was sealed.