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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #165 on: June 16, 2016, 03:30:27 PM »
See MB 12

So he leaves it as tzarich iyun
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #166 on: June 16, 2016, 03:52:55 PM »
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Correct, I meant to say that it's at least as אצבה קטנה.

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #167 on: June 16, 2016, 04:46:07 PM »
Correct, I meant to say that it's at least as אצבה קטנה.
That is referring to looking for pleasure

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #168 on: June 16, 2016, 05:12:50 PM »
Sounds like #1 is having mesiras nefesh to help fulfill one of the Rambam's 13 principles of Judaism, while #2 is being extreme well beyond the limits of halacha and is aiding a chillul hashem.

I don't call a מצוה הבאה בעבירה mesiras nefesh!
To look on a half naked woman is a simple aveirah it doesn't matter why you are doing it!
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 05:18:25 PM by pixi »
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #169 on: June 16, 2016, 05:19:42 PM »
How many non-Jews would know or realize that her picture was never published by any specific newspaper? Can you list newspapers which haven't published it and were not mentioned as such on DDF? With an edited picture all it takes is one person to post it online and it is all over the place.
This is correct. I expect if she becomes president it will be known to a lot more.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #170 on: June 16, 2016, 05:19:50 PM »
I don't call a מצוה הבאה בעבירה mesiras nefesh!
To look on half naked woman is a simple aveirah it doesn't matter why you are doing it!
So you also stay inside your home all summer? Who is looking at these women?

OT, but Aharon HaKohen had true mesiras when he didn't stop the yidden from the cheit ha'egel. Call it מצוה הבאה בעבירה if you want, but it had a higher purpose.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #171 on: June 16, 2016, 05:23:36 PM »
This is correct. I expect if she becomes president it will be known to a lot more.
Maybe, but much less so. There is no smokingt gun. Which article NEEDS to have a picture?
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #172 on: June 16, 2016, 05:27:44 PM »
Maybe, but much less so. There is no smokingt gun. Which article NEEDS to have a picture?
So your point is when then PS the picture it is going to bring more attention to it? My point is if it becomes public on a wide scale that they won't publish her picture because she is a women the perception is going to be a bunch of nut cases. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #173 on: June 16, 2016, 05:31:57 PM »
So you also stay inside your home all summer?
We have no other choice, we have to try our best not to look.

  Who is looking at these women?
The people putting tefilin on for those people

OT, but Aharon HaKohen had true mesiras when he didn't stop the yidden from the cheit ha'egel. Call it מצוה הבאה בעבירה if you want, but it had a higher purpose.
This is a subject we cannot talk about we have no idea what happened there, this is something we cannot understand.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #174 on: June 16, 2016, 05:41:23 PM »
The people putting tefilin on for those people
A truly vile thing to say. Shame on you.

This is a subject we cannot talk about we have no idea what happened there, this is something we cannot understand.
There are plenty of beautiful explanations given by various meforshim. The mesiras nefesh explanation is very compelling.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #175 on: June 16, 2016, 06:05:07 PM »
So your point is when then PS the picture it is going to bring more attention to it? My point is if it becomes public on a wide scale that they won't publish her picture because she is a women the perception is going to be a bunch of nut cases. Don't shoot the messenger.
Exactly! It is much less likely for it to become public on any scale at all. Even the PSed pic took years to become public IIRC. Who is shooting?
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #176 on: June 16, 2016, 06:05:19 PM »
Who is looking at these women?
The people putting tefilin on for those people
A truly vile thing to say. Shame on you.
I didn't say putting on tefilin for other Jews is a bad thing its actually a great thing and I admire people doing it, but on the other-side you gotta be careful how you are doing it.


So there's 2 people,

1. Who'd put his soul in danger by going to Times Square (or any other populated area) where there's lots of half clothed women to put on tfilin for non observant people.

2. Who wouldn't look at a photo of even clothed women (not discussing if its prohibited by halucha) just for God's sake.

So whom would you call nut case???
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #177 on: June 16, 2016, 06:16:33 PM »
Maybe they should just PS her with the proper clothing?  :)
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