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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2016, 09:17:56 AM »
I dont recall saying that. Please refresh my memory.
I'm asking how that's possible.
If a picture of a fully clothed woman is going to lead to an aveira, then you probably should be staying inside your home at all times. And forget about having shabbos guests.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2016, 09:18:46 AM »
Those in glass houses...
So you also stay inside your home all summer long?
Cool beans!
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2016, 09:20:21 AM »
I'm asking how that's possible.
If a picture of a fully clothed woman is going to lead to an aveira, then you probably should be staying inside your home at all times.
Ohh. I agree with that. I dont think it will but I still understand why a newspaper would have a policy of no females. Makes things simpler and less messy.

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2016, 09:22:16 AM »
Actually it makes it far messier.
Just look at the C"H caused by photoshopping Hillary out of the war room.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2016, 09:24:15 AM »
So you also stay inside your home all summer long?
Cool beans!
You see no difference between necessity and non-necessity?

News = non-necessity
Walking outdoors = necessity.

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2016, 09:26:00 AM »
Actually it makes it far messier.
Just look at the C"H caused by photoshopping Hillary out of the war room.
I don't think they give a damn about the world view. They care about their bottom line (which every business does) and what works for their readers.
What should be the geder about which females they post?
What should they consider dressed modestly enough?

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2016, 09:27:06 AM »
It's called "Venishmarta Mikol Davar Ra" read it about it, it's in the bible. It's also expounded upon in the Talmud in Avoda Zara.
If they want to be machmir on this, kudos to them. Just like we want to be respected for our opinions and practices whether we are chabad, litvish, modox or whatever, we should respect theirs!
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2016, 09:27:19 AM »
You see no difference between necessity and non-necessity?

News = non-necessity
Walking outdoors = necessity.


I was responding to the question of tefilin mivtzoim.

But on the topic of news, if you can't deliver it without causing a massive chillul Hashem then just don't deliver it at all. After all, it's not a necessity.

The justification of something in halacha not being a CH doesn't apply when it's not halacha.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2016, 09:27:34 AM »


You see no difference between necessity and non-necessity?

News = non-necessity
Walking outdoors = necessity.
Putting Tefillin on other Yidden = necessity
FTFY

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2016, 09:28:26 AM »
Actually it makes it far messier.
Just look at the C"H caused by photoshopping Hillary out of the war room.
That Photoshop was a mess.

Still doesn't change the fact that a blanket policy is much easier to deal with.

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2016, 09:28:48 AM »
I don't think they give a damn about the world view. They care about their bottom line (which every business does) and what works for their readers.
What should be the geder about which females they post?
What should they consider dressed modestly enough?
It shouldn't be difficult to draw a line.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2016, 09:30:23 AM »
It shouldn't be difficult to draw a line.
Ummmmm, have you never dealt with 3 other Jews and came to a similar conclusion?

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2016, 09:30:39 AM »
FTFY
Guaranteed clothed woman = debatable.

Chance of bikini = not allowed.

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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2016, 09:31:01 AM »
It's called "Venishmarta Mikol Davar Ra" read it about it, it's in the bible. It's also expounded upon in the Talmud in Avoda Zara.
If they want to be machmir on this, kudos to them. Just like we want to be respected for our opinions and practices whether we are chabad, litvish, modox or whatever, we should respect theirs!
So you're saying a full clothed woman is evil?
I could care less what everyone holds when it doesn't cause issues, but when you start causing international controversy for photoshopping and plane delays then I start caring and want to know how the CH is justified.
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Re: what will Hamodia do if Hillary becomes President?
« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2016, 09:32:32 AM »
That Photoshop was a mess.

Still doesn't change the fact that a blanket policy is much easier to deal with.
Except as OP notes, a blanket statement no longer works in 2016.
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