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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1035 on: January 30, 2018, 02:30:56 PM »
Desensitize the problem to the masses.

This is not something that only affects lowlives living in gettos.. or homeless.

There are basements in Ir hatorah vehachasidus full of broken bottles, vials of crack and used syringes.

Question is a) Are you aware of this? B) Is there a benefit of you being aware?
Amudim deserves a lot of credit for raising awareness of the issue and offering assistance/guidance, but if his target audience is naive people, how does this video prove anything about basements in the ihr hatoireh?

My guess is that it's targeted to kids who are nebech affected and is trying to offer them hope. Strategy is to show to the masses and 'if it saves one kid it was all worth it'. I'm not in a position to disagree, but we don't show mangled corpses to encourage safer driving etc. Should we? 

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1036 on: January 30, 2018, 02:33:56 PM »

My guess is that it's targeted to kids who are nebech affected and is trying to offer them hope. Strategy is to show to the masses and 'if it saves one kid it was all worth it'. I'm not in a position to disagree, but we don't show mangled corpses to encourage safer driving etc. Should we?
Ever seen MADD ads? Been to Fallsburg at the end of the summer where a mangled car from a fatal accident is on display on the high school lawn?

Of course shock is a good way to raise awareness.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1037 on: January 30, 2018, 02:34:52 PM »
Amudim deserves a lot of credit for raising awareness of the issue and offering assistance/guidance, but if his target audience is naive people, how does this video prove anything about basements in the ihr hatoireh?

My guess is that it's targeted to kids who are nebech affected and is trying to offer them hope. Strategy is to show to the masses and 'if it saves one kid it was all worth it'. I'm not in a position to disagree, but we don't show mangled corpses to encourage safer driving etc. Should we?

yes. They show results and professional videos of drunken driver head-on collisions during Drivers' Ed courses for teens. Very powerful and effective.

This video is of extreme importance. It is also good for parents of teens to see that anything can happen in a minute. Literally life or death. Unexpected. At any time.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1038 on: January 30, 2018, 03:07:00 PM »


Amudim deserves a lot of credit for raising awareness of the issue and offering assistance/guidance, but if his target audience is naive people, how does this video prove anything about basements in the ihr hatoireh?

My guess is that it's targeted to kids who are nebech affected and is trying to offer them hope. Strategy is to show to the masses and 'if it saves one kid it was all worth it'. I'm not in a position to disagree, but we don't show mangled corpses to encourage safer driving etc. Should we?

It is absolutely targeted to the masses of naive people like you, who think it's a goyisheh problem,and probably only affects "nebach kids".

It's unfortunately a global problem that affects much more than some kids.

Not sure I understand your aurgument that this video can't help educate the naive masses, that the scourge of addiction can and does affect almost anyone.


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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1039 on: January 30, 2018, 03:08:16 PM »
and as if after this video you know what to look out for!
Maybe just a tiny bit.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1040 on: January 30, 2018, 03:14:16 PM »
i wish they never wake up. lucky are those people who think its just goish! no one should ever need to find out how close to home this is!
It's to late for that, I see it on a daily basis yes even in the frum communities (the amount of narcan used in a single day is staggering).

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1041 on: January 30, 2018, 03:14:35 PM »
i politely disagree, the best way is yo daven. no need to be aware of nothing.
Are you serious? But what happens if your tefilos were not miskabel?
What if your son or daughter is cv not perfect, and for some reason gets bullied/thrown out of school? What will help you or them be aware of the dangers of drugs?

What if your job/marriage is stressful, CV you break a leg and get hooked on narcotics?

What if you're choshuver bochur drinks at every sholom zocur, bris, Kiddush, fabregen, late night Seder, week end, beIN hazmanim, chasuna, vort, etc. And you only find out there is a problem when his new kallah can't handle it?

How will you be aware?

Either way, your tefilos are definitely needed and appreciated!

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1042 on: January 30, 2018, 03:25:25 PM »
It's to late for that, I see it on a daily basis yes even in the frum communities (the amount of narcan used in a single day is staggering).
If you don't mind my asking and if you're allowed to say. (In the Jewish community) What type of people and how old are they, get narcan? Which age group and type of people are the most common?
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1043 on: January 30, 2018, 03:40:27 PM »
If you don't mind my asking and if you're allowed to say. (In the Jewish community) What type of people and how old are they, get narcan? Which age group and type of people are the most common?
Narcan is a medication that reverses the effect of opiates/opioids for a short time.
I've seen all ages and back rounds from young teens to older adults overdose whether it was by mistake or not it is a real issue

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1044 on: January 30, 2018, 04:02:24 PM »
Narcan is a medication that reverses the effect of opiates/opioids for a short time.
I've seen all ages and back rounds from young teens to older adults overdose whether it was by mistake or not it is a real issue
In your experience. Would you say that cases of frum yeshivish people are roughly the same amount as other Jewish people?
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1045 on: January 30, 2018, 04:02:44 PM »
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1046 on: January 30, 2018, 04:33:57 PM »
and as if after this video you know what to look out for!
How can you know what to look out for if there's nothing to look out for?
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1047 on: January 30, 2018, 05:39:33 PM »
so shmoe joe is arguing with Joe Shmoe.....
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1048 on: January 30, 2018, 05:41:24 PM »
In your experience. Would you say that cases of frum yeshivish people are roughly the same amount as other Jewish people?
I don't understand your question
And if I'm understanding correctly does it make a difference? A life is a life

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1049 on: January 30, 2018, 06:42:55 PM »
I don't understand your question
And if I'm understanding correctly does it make a difference? A life is a life
My guess is he was trying to figure out if the issue is as prevalent amongst yeshivish jews as it is amongst non yeshivish jews.