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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1040 on: January 30, 2018, 03:14:16 PM »
i wish they never wake up. lucky are those people who think its just goish! no one should ever need to find out how close to home this is!
It's to late for that, I see it on a daily basis yes even in the frum communities (the amount of narcan used in a single day is staggering).

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1041 on: January 30, 2018, 03:14:35 PM »
i politely disagree, the best way is yo daven. no need to be aware of nothing.
Are you serious? But what happens if your tefilos were not miskabel?
What if your son or daughter is cv not perfect, and for some reason gets bullied/thrown out of school? What will help you or them be aware of the dangers of drugs?

What if your job/marriage is stressful, CV you break a leg and get hooked on narcotics?

What if you're choshuver bochur drinks at every sholom zocur, bris, Kiddush, fabregen, late night Seder, week end, beIN hazmanim, chasuna, vort, etc. And you only find out there is a problem when his new kallah can't handle it?

How will you be aware?

Either way, your tefilos are definitely needed and appreciated!

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1042 on: January 30, 2018, 03:25:25 PM »
It's to late for that, I see it on a daily basis yes even in the frum communities (the amount of narcan used in a single day is staggering).
If you don't mind my asking and if you're allowed to say. (In the Jewish community) What type of people and how old are they, get narcan? Which age group and type of people are the most common?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1043 on: January 30, 2018, 03:40:27 PM »
If you don't mind my asking and if you're allowed to say. (In the Jewish community) What type of people and how old are they, get narcan? Which age group and type of people are the most common?
Narcan is a medication that reverses the effect of opiates/opioids for a short time.
I've seen all ages and back rounds from young teens to older adults overdose whether it was by mistake or not it is a real issue

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1044 on: January 30, 2018, 04:02:24 PM »
Narcan is a medication that reverses the effect of opiates/opioids for a short time.
I've seen all ages and back rounds from young teens to older adults overdose whether it was by mistake or not it is a real issue
In your experience. Would you say that cases of frum yeshivish people are roughly the same amount as other Jewish people?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1045 on: January 30, 2018, 04:02:44 PM »
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1046 on: January 30, 2018, 04:33:57 PM »
and as if after this video you know what to look out for!
How can you know what to look out for if there's nothing to look out for?
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1047 on: January 30, 2018, 05:39:33 PM »
so shmoe joe is arguing with Joe Shmoe.....
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1048 on: January 30, 2018, 05:41:24 PM »
In your experience. Would you say that cases of frum yeshivish people are roughly the same amount as other Jewish people?
I don't understand your question
And if I'm understanding correctly does it make a difference? A life is a life

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1049 on: January 30, 2018, 06:42:55 PM »
I don't understand your question
And if I'm understanding correctly does it make a difference? A life is a life
My guess is he was trying to figure out if the issue is as prevalent amongst yeshivish jews as it is amongst non yeshivish jews.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1050 on: January 30, 2018, 07:01:15 PM »
My guess is he was trying to figure out if the issue is as prevalent amongst yeshivish jews as it is amongst non yeshivish jews.
Yes

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1051 on: January 30, 2018, 07:10:46 PM »
My guess is he was trying to figure out if the issue is as prevalent amongst yeshivish jews as it is amongst non yeshivish jews.
That's a great metric to figure out if we have a problem.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1052 on: January 30, 2018, 07:12:30 PM »
That's a great metric to figure out if we have a problem.
Just saying what I think he was getting at with his question. I agree its irrelevant.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1053 on: January 31, 2018, 11:25:58 AM »
so shmoe joe is arguing with Joe Shmoe.....
That's the only reason I responded :), otherwise I try to stay out of touchy subjects
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1054 on: January 31, 2018, 07:10:00 PM »
How can you know what to look out for if there's nothing to look out for?
i never said there’s nothing to look out all I said that I wish those people who think that there’s nothing it’s Goiyish and there’s nothing to look out, should always stay thinking like this and not have to experience first hand!
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1055 on: April 01, 2018, 10:03:39 PM »
These guys may get away without jail for procedural reasons, but they need to be ostracized if they were trying to distribute drugs.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1056 on: April 01, 2018, 10:07:42 PM »
These guys may get away without jail for procedural reasons, but they need to be ostracized if they were trying to distribute drugs.

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But but but weed is harmless.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1057 on: April 01, 2018, 10:08:32 PM »
But but but weed is harmless.
It was also cocaine
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1058 on: April 02, 2018, 01:30:33 AM »
These guys may get away without jail for procedural reasons, but they need to be ostracized if they were trying to distribute drugs.

If there's no central authority I find it hard to believe that it would make that much of a difference. But I guess every little bit would help. Were there similar cases where it did help?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1059 on: May 23, 2018, 10:33:10 PM »
http://crownheights.info/crime/614817/5-year-old-lured-in-crown-heights-suspect-arrested/

This individual is alive, but his life seems wasted.

I recall quite a few years ago I was asked to help an organization that was dealing with at risk teenagers. I was given the opportunity to learn with this bochur along with one or two others. He struck me as a very bright and intelligent boy, significantly more capable than the other(s) in the group. One of the other ones just roams the streets of Crown Heights nowadays, seems like his brain is totally wasted. While this one can still strike an intelligent conversation, but unfortunately seems like his life is in ruins.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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