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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1080 on: July 18, 2019, 10:24:22 PM »
Ha
Why? what ideas do you have in mind?
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1081 on: July 18, 2019, 10:25:48 PM »
Ha
maybe he is saying "just say no".  ;)
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1082 on: July 18, 2019, 10:26:51 PM »
maybe he is saying "just say no".  ;)
That old gag...and we know your position on the edited post...so  :-X
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1083 on: July 18, 2019, 11:36:55 PM »
Ha. There is plenty more to do. I will pound the table over and over until someone is ready to listen...12 step programs...for the addict, for the family of the addict...therapists that are CASAC trained. No more rehabs. Open meetings in frum places. Do not allow any non-CASAC trained therapists to work in our community mental health organizations.

What’s the issue with rehabs?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1084 on: July 18, 2019, 11:41:26 PM »
What’s the issue with rehabs?
Useless waste of money. They dont work. As soon as theyre done there is no follow up. Read the article. Its a good jumpstart if there is a plan for continuous recovery. But just rehab and then winging it, like most are doing, is a colossal waste of time, money and hope. If there is no accountability by the addict after rehab and no awareness of what to look for in behaviors of the addict by the families its a waste.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1085 on: July 19, 2019, 05:00:24 AM »
Useless waste of money. They dont work. As soon as theyre done there is no follow up. Read the article. Its a good jumpstart if there is a plan for continuous recovery. But just rehab and then winging it, like most are doing, is a colossal waste of time, money and hope. If there is no accountability by the addict after rehab and no awareness of what to look for in behaviors of the addict by the families its a waste.
There are frum meetings in Lakewood at least once a week.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1086 on: July 19, 2019, 03:44:03 PM »
This thread has become morose. Instead of all the hand wringing what action(s) can we take to stop this?

Great question, perhaps someone has some ideas?

Ha. There is plenty more to do. I will pound the table over and over until someone is ready to listen...12 step programs...for the addict, for the family of the addict...therapists that are CASAC trained. No more rehabs. Open meetings in frum places. Do not allow any non-CASAC trained therapists to work in our community mental health organizations.

It sounds like we have a passionate and knowledgable expert that already knows what to do.
However, this expert still hasn't taken action, and believes

we should buy a bigger rug to sweep things under.

Are you in the rug business by any chance?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1087 on: July 19, 2019, 03:50:14 PM »
None.
No action necessary...open-mindedness necessary.
How ever did you guess? Can i interest you in a Persian rug.

Sad that all we can get is snark.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1088 on: July 19, 2019, 04:06:32 PM »
None.
No action necessary...open-mindedness necessary.
How ever did you guess? Can i interest you in a Persian rug.

Sad that all we can get is snark.

My point is simple - if the people most passionate and knowledgable aren't going to take action on this issue, then don't expect anything more than the status quo. If awareness is the big thing, run around and do whatever it takes to make people aware instead of complaining about it in a forum. IMHO being knowledgable and not taking action is sweeping it under the rug.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1089 on: July 19, 2019, 04:13:33 PM »
My point is simple - if the people most passionate and knowledgable aren't going to take action on this issue, then don't expect anything more than the status quo. If awareness is the big thing, run around and do whatever it takes to make people aware instead of complaining about it in a forum. IMHO being knowledgable and not taking action is sweeping it under the rug.
Are you questioning the action I take? Do you know me? Do you know what I do or have done? I dont advertise what I do. Neither does anyone else who does. I have never advocated just awareness. I complain from a place of action, not inaction.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1090 on: July 19, 2019, 05:42:08 PM »
Are you questioning the action I take? Do you know me? Do you know what I do or have done? I dont advertise what I do. Neither does anyone else who does. I have never advocated just awareness. I complain from a place of action, not inaction.

I didn't know that you are involved as your post seems to show otherwise. But thanks for taking action.
Maybe it should be advertised what you and others do, and with awareness others will get involved?

I think that both awareness without action or action without awareness will not solve the issue.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1091 on: July 19, 2019, 07:58:08 PM »
Are you questioning the action I take? Do you know me? Do you know what I do or have done? I dont advertise what I do. Neither does anyone else who does. I have never advocated just awareness. I complain from a place of action, not inaction.
I'm ready to help. Tell me what to do. I have no friends or family with such issues thank god.
I'm not who you think I am.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1093 on: July 23, 2019, 04:43:15 PM »
If you want to vote Democrat, you are being very disloyal to Jewish people and very disloyal to Israel, Mr. Trump said.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1094 on: July 23, 2019, 04:44:35 PM »
I sure hope he addressed real drugs and not pot.
Right because its not a gateway drug. Shhhh I'll stop you now...in OUR circles it is.
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