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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1100 on: July 23, 2019, 05:06:57 PM »
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Waste more time trying to scare kids about pot and the only thing will change in a year from now is that more kids will have tragically die.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1101 on: July 23, 2019, 05:33:36 PM »
The point is not to scare kids with incorrect facts about pot (I hope)...but the fact remains that in orthodox communities, kids that are using pot are very often already moving in the direction of harder drugs, simply because it's not just recreational use, it's part of a larger pattern of pain or rebellion.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1102 on: July 23, 2019, 06:19:46 PM »
The point is not to scare kids with incorrect facts about pot (I hope)...but the fact remains that in orthodox communities, kids that are using pot are very often already moving in the direction of harder drugs, simply because it's not just recreational use, it's part of a larger pattern of pain or rebellion.
Ok then you have to address the pain and rebellion. If didn't use pot they will just go to the harder drugs directly if the pain and rebellion is not addressed. Take using pot as a siren going off.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1103 on: July 23, 2019, 06:34:41 PM »
Sort of true. Not always accurate that they'd jump directly to harder drugs, but definitely true that addressing the pain and rebellion is important.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1104 on: July 23, 2019, 06:36:38 PM »
Ok then you have to address the pain and rebellion. If didn't use pot they will just go to the harder drugs directly if the pain and rebellion is not addressed. Take using pot as a siren going off.
Genius. Cant believe we havent thought of that already.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1105 on: July 23, 2019, 06:45:38 PM »
Genius. Cant believe we havent thought of that already.
My original point was pot is not the issue before you went off on "I know everything" tangent. Now we got pot out of the way you can continue.  :P
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1106 on: July 23, 2019, 06:46:53 PM »
My original point was pot is not the issue before you went off on "I know everything" tangent. Now we got pot out of the way you can continue.  :P
Recreational pot is A VERY BIG issue.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1107 on: July 23, 2019, 06:49:06 PM »
Recreational pot is A VERY BIG issue.
Stick to the Jewish community which you claim to know about.  :)
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1108 on: July 24, 2019, 12:23:10 AM »
Are you trying to say the majority of marijuana users go on to harder drugs?

Are you trying to say that the majority of hard drug users didn't start with marijuana?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1109 on: July 24, 2019, 12:30:37 AM »
Are you trying to say that the majority of hard drug users didn't start with marijuana?
Where did you get that from?
Just so there is no confusion most marijuana users DO NOT go on to harder drugs. 
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1110 on: July 24, 2019, 12:37:41 AM »
Where did you get that from?
Just so there is no confusion most marijuana users DO NOT go on to harder drugs.
Stick to the non-Jewish community which you claim to know about.  :)
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1111 on: July 24, 2019, 12:52:26 AM »
FTF all of us
If you can't bring any facts to the discussion just post in the political thread.  :P
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1112 on: July 24, 2019, 08:00:29 AM »
Where did you get that from?
Just so there is no confusion most marijuana users DO NOT go on to harder drugs.
that is entirely not the question . the question is how many hard drug users started out on marijuana
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1113 on: July 24, 2019, 08:08:47 AM »
that is entirely not the question . the question is how many hard drug users started out on marijuana
How many hard drug users started out on breast milk? The questions are meaningless.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1114 on: July 24, 2019, 08:15:37 AM »
How many hard drug users started out on breast milk? The questions are meaningless.
wow are you a hard person to have a honest conversation with .
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1115 on: July 24, 2019, 08:21:59 AM »
wow are you a hard person to have a honest conversation with .
If you want to have an honest discussion then address the point I made. Don't try and confuse the issue.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1116 on: July 24, 2019, 08:26:37 AM »
How many hard drug users started out on breast milk? The questions are meaningless.
There are many things which are not prohibited, yet we set boundaries and make guidelines to protect against abuses and excess. The behaviors that an addict exhibits usually comes from ignoring the boundaries and indulging in the excesses.

Pot use is on the rise because 1. It is more readily available due to decriminalization on the state and local levels; and 2. Because it is an easy tool escape reality.

When someone is an addict and the prohibited or formerly prohibited vice is now more readily available. Or, if the social stigma of the vice has been diminished or removed entirely. What do you think will happen? Of course they will indulge in the excess.

Therefore, the solution has always been, in our community, to set boundaries, even for permitted things. So speaking about Pot is absolutely crucial and relevant.

A community without boundaries such as the secular world at large will not understand this.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1117 on: July 24, 2019, 08:36:50 AM »
There are many things which are not prohibited, yet we set boundaries and make guidelines to protect against abuses and excess. The behaviors that an addict exhibits usually comes from ignoring the boundaries and indulging in the excesses.

Pot use is on the rise because 1. It is more readily available due to decriminalization on the state and local levels; and 2. Because it is an easy tool escape reality.

When someone is an addict and the prohibited or formerly prohibited vice is now more readily available. Or, if the social stigma of the vice has been diminished or removed entirely. What do you think will happen? Of course they will indulge in the excess.

Therefore, the solution has always been, in our community, to set boundaries, even for permitted things. So speaking about Pot is absolutely crucial and relevant.

A community without boundaries such as the secular world at large will not understand this.
If you are coming from a place where you think (community) you are special we will never agree on anything.

It seems you are talking about the dangers of addicts using pots. That is totally different point/discussion.

My point is smoking pot does not lead to becoming a drug addict.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1118 on: July 24, 2019, 08:42:55 AM »
If you are coming from a place where you think (community) you are special we will never agree on anything.

It seems you are talking about the dangers of addicts using pots. That is totally different point/discussion.

My point is smoking pot does not lead to becoming a drug addict.

And you are coming from a place where you have no clue about our special community. So as previously stated...

Im not trying to say anything you would comprehend. You are free to comment on things you know. This is something you know nothing about...i.e. drug use in the religious Jewish community.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1119 on: July 24, 2019, 08:47:25 AM »
And you are coming from a place where you have no clue about our special community. So as previously stated...
Just what I thought. You have no facts so you spew non-sense.
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