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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #160 on: September 06, 2016, 12:35:12 PM »
please explain. For every addict that you show me thats cured I will show you 5 who have relapsed after being "cured".
of course most are not but i was just trying to say it depends on what. e.g cigs, alcohol, heavy drugs.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #161 on: September 06, 2016, 12:35:31 PM »
Now your bringing in the irrational 3rd grade retorts. Kudos to you. I was wondering how long it would last.
show me proof or shut up

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #162 on: September 06, 2016, 12:38:46 PM »
show me proof or shut up
Your emotions are getting the better of you. Keep it mature. I have no proof. Noone has proof. All I can show you is a basic layout of numbers. Though if you weren't too busy throwing elementary grade insults at other anonymous people online who dare to argue with you then you would have seen the same yourself on Mr Google.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #163 on: September 06, 2016, 12:41:03 PM »
show me proof or shut up

You are not making yourself look intelligent, unfortunately.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #164 on: September 06, 2016, 12:42:08 PM »
Your emotions are getting the better of you. Keep it mature. I have no proof. Noone has proof. All I can show you is a basic layout of numbers. Though if you weren't too busy throwing elementary grade insults at other anonymous people online who dare to argue with you then you would have seen the same yourself on Mr Google.
So show the numbers that's all

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #165 on: September 06, 2016, 12:42:20 PM »
You are not making yourself look intelligent, unfortunately.
Don't need to

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #166 on: September 06, 2016, 12:44:19 PM »
So show the numbers that's all
As I said earlier

I invite you to provide something to back up your numbers. I gladly can later when I'm in from of a computer
I only have so much time and energy to expend on arguing with uneducated debaters online. So it will need to wait until tonight when I'm in front of a computer with some spare time to put something together

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #167 on: September 06, 2016, 12:46:40 PM »
is it really a difference how bad & far our numbers have spun??

i think we all agree;
its out of control and is growing very fast in all sects
this topic needs to be discussed more and much more openly
people who have influence should get the addicts to go for help
 

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #168 on: September 06, 2016, 12:50:28 PM »
Your emotions are getting the better of you. Keep it mature. I have no proof. Noone has proof. All I can show you is a basic layout of numbers. Though if you weren't too busy throwing elementary grade insults at other anonymous people online who dare to argue with you then you would have seen the same yourself on Mr Google.
Here is a recent study that shows that you cannot have numbers to back you up because they dont exist. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4487707/

Every argument I made is included in this study. We're pretty damn close to the average, and what difference does it make. Its bad and people are dying all too often as a result of willful blindness and inaction. Whatever your sources are its unimportnat as long as we recognize that there is trojan horse in our midst which, if left unabated, will ruin us and rot us from the inside out.

If you know someone who has a problem please refer them to an organization that can help. If you have any questions feel free to PM. 

 
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #169 on: September 06, 2016, 12:51:42 PM »
is it really a difference how bad & far our numbers have spun??

i think we all agree;
its out of control and is growing very fast in all sects
this topic needs to be discussed more and much more openly
people who have influence should get the addicts to go for help
Agreed

No one has more influence than someone who is close to the person who needs help.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #170 on: September 06, 2016, 12:53:46 PM »
As I said earlier
I only have so much time and energy to expend on arguing with uneducated debaters online. So it will need to wait until tonight when I'm in front of a computer with some spare time to put something together
Please list your qualifications (other than internet researcher) in regards to this topic as well, especially when calling others uneducated. Have you dealt with addicts?
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #171 on: September 06, 2016, 01:07:07 PM »
Please list your qualifications (other than internet researcher) in regards to this topic as well, especially when calling others uneducated. Have you dealt with addicts?
I don't have many qualifications. Yes I have worked with addicts in the past but that makes no difference in this case. It's common decency to at least have basic concrete knowledge of a subject before vehemently opposing someones opinions/facts.
Even a 5 min internet search will yield a small amount of knowledge and it's brutally obvious that it hasn't been done.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #172 on: September 06, 2016, 01:08:20 PM »
look what pops up in google. pretty sad

http://imgur.com/hWiefLL

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #173 on: September 06, 2016, 01:10:43 PM »
All this talk of above or below the national average is really ridiculous and completely ignoring the topic at hand.

In other words welcome to DDF.

@Emkay no matter what stats you bring, people will always say we are more insular than the world and therefore no stats will matter.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #174 on: September 06, 2016, 01:11:18 PM »
look what pops up in google. pretty sad

http://imgur.com/hWiefLL
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #175 on: September 06, 2016, 01:12:27 PM »
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #176 on: September 06, 2016, 01:14:04 PM »
That's based on your history LOL.
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Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #177 on: September 06, 2016, 01:14:12 PM »
That's based on your history LOL.
nope... try it yourself. I did on a work computer in a browser that was never used before.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #178 on: September 06, 2016, 01:14:36 PM »
look what pops up in google. pretty sad

http://imgur.com/hWiefLL
Maybe it's targeted, I don't have that.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #179 on: September 06, 2016, 01:14:40 PM »
I don't have many qualifications. Yes I have worked with addicts in the past but that makes no difference in this case. It's common decency to at least have basic concrete knowledge of a subject before vehemently opposing someones opinions/facts.
Even a 5 min internet search will yield a small amount of knowledge and it's brutally obvious that it hasn't been done.
You know what, you're right. We are less worse off than our non-jewish counterparts. Now what? Does thag make you feel better?

You think this is some smear campaign of frum jews? Do we have a problem? A serious problem? A deadly serious un/under-addressed problem?

You want to be right on the numbers and wrong on the issues? Is that what this is about? Ego?
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