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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #180 on: September 06, 2016, 01:16:29 PM »
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #181 on: September 06, 2016, 01:18:44 PM »
You know what, you're right. We are less worse off than our non-jewish counterparts. Now what? Does thag make you feel better?

You think this is some smear campaign of frum jews? Do we have a problem? A serious problem? A deadly serious un/under-addressed problem?

You want to be right on the numbers and wrong on the issues? Is that what this is about? Ego?
No. Read the convo back and I never said that it's not an issue. It's a large and horrific problem and even 1 is 1 to many.
I was merely mentioning it in regard to those that are making it seem like a predominantly Jewish issue, and that the insular Jewish community has a significantly and relatively high rate of drug overdoses that its being brushed under every rug and into every closet.
But yes, I agree something must be done. So talk tachlis, what shall be done that isn't being done already?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #182 on: September 06, 2016, 01:20:48 PM »
All this talk of above or below the national average is really ridiculous and completely ignoring the topic at hand.

In other words welcome to DDF.

@Emkay no matter what stats you bring, people will always say we are more insular than the world and therefore no stats will matter.
the only stats that would matter would be 0

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #183 on: September 06, 2016, 01:22:39 PM »
nope... try it yourself. I did on a work computer in a browser that was never used before.
Live in a jewish area? Change your IP to a different city and go incognito I'm pretty sure it won't come up.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #184 on: September 06, 2016, 01:24:45 PM »
Who said it was predominantly jewish issue??? Well lets start with education.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #185 on: September 06, 2016, 01:27:04 PM »
Live in a jewish area? Change your IP to a different city and go incognito I'm pretty sure it won't come up.
i work in the city.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #186 on: September 06, 2016, 01:28:03 PM »
Who said it was predominantly jewish issue??? Well lets start with education.
Classes in yeshiva about drugs, sex, abuse?

Seems like something that's up to each parent, no? Or at least seems like it should be that way based on how the system is set up now.

i work in the city.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #187 on: September 06, 2016, 01:28:41 PM »
Classes in yeshiva about drugs, sex, abuse?

Seems like something that's up to each parent, no? Or at least seems like it should be that way based on how the system is set up now.
 Oh THE city, gotcha :P. Well that explains it.
Manhattan lol

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #188 on: September 06, 2016, 01:28:46 PM »
nope... try it yourself. I did on a work computer in a browser that was never used before.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #189 on: September 06, 2016, 01:30:46 PM »


Well lets start with education.

Educate them about what? Anyone taking them knows how dangerous they are. By the time they are at the stage of drugs they are quite exposed to the world at large.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #190 on: September 06, 2016, 01:30:49 PM »

ok maybe its location based. But deff not based on my history. Still very sad.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #191 on: September 06, 2016, 01:31:18 PM »

Educate them about what? Anyone taking them knows how dangerous they are. By the time they are at the stage of drugs they are quite exposed to the world at large.
any reason why you deleted your screenshot?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #192 on: September 06, 2016, 01:33:58 PM »
any reason why you deleted your screenshot?
Yea. I thought that maybe the word "the" was necessary and thats what was prompting the results so I deleted it while I double checked. It still didn't give me those results but I didn't see a need to put it back up.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #193 on: September 06, 2016, 01:34:52 PM »
Yea. I thought that maybe the word "the" was necessary and thats what was prompting the results so I deleted it while I double checked. It still didn't give me those results but I didn't see a need to put it back up.
were you located? but the results are deff ther and not based on my history.  http://isearchfrom.com/

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #194 on: September 06, 2016, 01:35:25 PM »
were you located? im guessing its that.
Currently in flatbush but all my traffic is routed through a VPN.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #195 on: September 06, 2016, 01:40:04 PM »
incognito and signed out

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #196 on: September 06, 2016, 01:40:08 PM »
Classes in yeshiva about drugs, sex, abuse?

If our friend thinks its not as bad as the general population, then what is the general consensus? That we dont have it so bad.

Maybe parents should be educated that its bad enough in our community so that they can realize the signs and symptoms before they find their child passed out or c'v otherwise.

Yes maybe yeshivas (high school) should teach about drugs and alcohol. Its a parents job to teach a kid what is appropriate and what is not in the realm of sexual abuse. I know i've taught my kids what is appropriate touching and what is unacceptable. I would propose kallah teachers and those teaching chasanim to teach their students about sex addiction signs and symptoms and to reinforce the drugs and alcohol lessons which should be taught in yeshivas.

Lift the veil of secrecy a bit.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #197 on: September 06, 2016, 01:46:44 PM »

Educate them about what? Anyone taking them knows how dangerous they are. By the time they are at the stage of drugs they are quite exposed to the world at large.
Really?

When you have your first joint, you know how dangerous heroin is? You're not thinking about heroin. Youre thinking about Carlebach or Rav Nachman.

When your husband comes home and sexually abuses you because, hey you're married and its allowed, will you know that its inappropriate and part of his addiction?

When you go with the chevra to Atlantic City "for fun" and you cant stop thinking about that trip and when you will be going back and how you can get money when you have none do you know you're an addict. Will your loved ones know when you "borrow" money "for a week" that its not your next paycheck you're waiting for.

I dont want to make this personal but the bold statment makes me sense extreme naivete. How many teanagers are doing drugs and not exposed at all to the dangers of overdosing and only want a higher high??
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #198 on: September 06, 2016, 01:49:48 PM »
Really?

When you have your first joint, you know how dangerous heroin is? You're not thinking about heroin. Youre thinking about Carlebach or Rav Nachman.

When your husband comes home and sexually abuses you because, hey you're married and its allowed, will you know that its inappropriate and part of his addiction?

When you go with the chevra to Atlantic City "for fun" and you cant stop thinking about that trip and when you will be going back and how you can get money when you have none do you know you're an addict. Will your loved ones know when you "borrow" money "for a week" that its not your next paycheck you're waiting for.

I dont want to make this personal but I sense extreme naivete.
What percentage would you think of people are not aware of the health risks when they start using drugs?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #199 on: September 06, 2016, 01:53:38 PM »
What percentage would you think of people are not aware of the health risks when they start using drugs?


ZERO