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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #300 on: September 06, 2016, 07:45:20 PM »
Bottom line, what will you do the next time you suspect someone you know/love/care about is an addict? Will you be able to recognize the early warning signs? Do you know where or to whom to turn to for proper advice and guidance?

Educate yourself. The next crop of addicts are already acting out in their addiction. Learn the signs now.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #301 on: September 07, 2016, 12:16:16 AM »
Educate yourself. The next crop of addicts are already acting out in their addiction. Learn the signs now.
Always check between the toes.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #302 on: September 07, 2016, 06:27:55 AM »
Always check between the toes.
...and under the nails.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #303 on: September 07, 2016, 07:46:58 AM »
I quit smoking cigarettes and had it really easy since then (9 years now).
Never did heroin but I cannot fathom how the worlds most infamously addictive drug is considered less addictive than cigarettes.
i quit smoking 2 years ago and also had a relatively easy time since
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #304 on: September 07, 2016, 07:47:50 AM »
Smoking as a bochur doesn't really count.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #305 on: September 07, 2016, 07:53:48 AM »
Smoking as a bochur doesn't really count.
Why not?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #306 on: September 07, 2016, 08:01:31 AM »
Smoking as a bochur doesn't really count.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #307 on: September 07, 2016, 08:46:10 AM »
Smoking as a bochur doesn't really count.

I'm sure if I did heroin as a bochur you would count it.
Hence, you'll be agreeing that heroin is far more addictive.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #308 on: September 07, 2016, 08:52:23 AM »
I'm sure if I did heroin as a bochur you would count it.
Hence, you'll be agreeing that heroin is far more addictive.

No one is arguing that Heroin is not more addictive!!!

 Quitting smoking is definitely on par with quitting heroin. The withdrawal may not be the same but the difficulty of stopping is very similar.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #309 on: September 07, 2016, 09:03:28 AM »
I'm sure if I did heroin as a bochur you would count it.
Hence, you'll be agreeing that heroin is far more addictive.
The chemical addiction power from small time usage of heroin is definitely stronger than tobacco. That just speaks about how easy it to get addicted; it doesn't say anything about the ease of quitting once the addiction is there. I think the average bochur smoking has a lower chemical addiction and different league mental addiction than a real addicted smoker. They have no right to judge from their experience what quitting is like for an addicted smoker.

I don't profess to be knowledgeable about addiction.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #310 on: September 07, 2016, 09:06:53 AM »
The chemical addiction power from small time usage of heroin is definitely stronger than tobacco. That just speaks about how easy it to get addicted; it doesn't say anything about the ease of quitting once the addiction is there. I think the average bochur smoking has a lower chemical addiction and different league mental addiction than a real addicted smoker. They have no right to judge from their experience what quitting is like for an addicted smoker.

Now you're creating arbitrary lines to define addicted smokers.
Someone that smokes a pack daily for years is addicted.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #311 on: September 07, 2016, 09:07:43 AM »
No one is arguing that Heroin is not more addictive!!!

 Quitting smoking is definitely on par with quitting heroin. The withdrawal may not be the same but the difficulty of stopping is very similar.

As the old adage goes- "quitting is easy, I've done it thousands of times!"

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #312 on: September 07, 2016, 09:09:10 AM »
No one is arguing that Heroin is not more addictive!!!

 Quitting smoking is definitely on par with quitting heroin. The withdrawal may not be the same but the difficulty of stopping is very similar.
U were a few pages back

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #313 on: September 07, 2016, 09:12:50 AM »
Now you're creating arbitrary lines to define addicted smokers.
Someone that smokes a pack daily for years is addicted.
Agreed. But it seems easier for bochurim to quit. I'd venture a guess that many bochurim who were addicted and "quit" easily, when they wanted, even for a few years, end up taking up smoking or another addiction at some point later in life.

Thats just my anecdotal observation.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #314 on: September 07, 2016, 09:14:34 AM »
U were a few pages back
I did not. I was talking about quitting all along. He's talking about getting hooked. Of course heroin is more potent, the high is better than anything a cigarette can ever give you.
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