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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #340 on: September 07, 2016, 10:37:06 AM »
He wouldnt know where to find one if it was in his back yard.  ;D
Sorry buddy on this your wrong

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #341 on: September 07, 2016, 10:43:24 AM »

From my limited understanding and reading, it would seem that the psychological addiction is not as strong, because the user never intended to be doing it long term. Someone who cannot imagine life without cigarettes is going to have a harder time stopping than one who doesn't envision himself going through life with cigarettes. The psychological dependency seems to be less when one always planned on quitting before a predefined period. Most boys know that they're going to have to stop before getting married, and never plan or dream otherwise. This doesn't make stopping easy, but I think the dependency developes to a lesser degree. I am by no means an expert.

By that standard, heroin addiction is not real because no one plans on taking it long term.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #342 on: September 07, 2016, 10:45:44 AM »
Sorry buddy on this your wrong
If its only on this I'm ok.  ;D
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #343 on: September 07, 2016, 10:46:31 AM »
By that standard, heroin addiction is not real because no one plans on taking it long term.
Do you understand the difference between chemical and psychological?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #344 on: September 07, 2016, 10:48:02 AM »
If its only on this I'm ok.  ;D
Lol I'm to tired for this

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #345 on: September 07, 2016, 02:21:27 PM »
A poem written by a friend of a (Frum) girl that OD'd (on Heroin) this week. Nebach.


Dear heroin,
This time I wont go to the funeral.
This time I wont hear how she was an angel that left us too soon.
This time I wont let myself feel.
If I allow myself to feel it will become too real.
This time I will get angry.
This time I will question.
I will make room for the anger in my heart.
It feels more comfortable in there than the truth.
The truth can't get me anywhere anyways.
What can you possibly tell me that can justify taking someone barely old enough to make decisions on her own?
You decided for her. You sealed her fate without her even having a say.
You whisked her away with the promise of a beautiful romance
You whispered words of comfort while slowly peeling her life away.
Why did you let her take you in her arms and hold you close
When all the while you intended on getting close enough to hurt her.
She turned to you as a heroine in her darkest moment, expecting you to save her like she was taught you would.
You blinded her with promises of momentary bliss
You deceived her with your innocent name
This time I wont go to the funeral.
This time I wont hear how she was an angel that left us too soon.
This time I wont let myself feel, feeling are overrated anyways.
Wasn't that your favorite part?
When you let her fall into a state of surrender,
completely numb and oblivious to her existence?
When you bribed her with a false sense of freedom...
...You always made the freedom look so beautiful.
Your name was spoken in the last 12 hours enough for a lifetime.
Enough to make up for all the names that go unmentioned, all those identities you strip.
Your name tastes like salt on my tongue.
Your name sounds like a curse out of hell.
Its ironic because we learn that you save the day.
I knew your name as someone I can look up to.
I wanted to be just like you.
Growing up you end up learning that sometimes the heroine isn't the savior
You didn't have any mercy, you usually don't. 
Oh the irony

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #346 on: September 07, 2016, 02:24:53 PM »
#TYH

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #347 on: September 07, 2016, 02:50:34 PM »

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #348 on: September 07, 2016, 02:51:28 PM »
I dont know what to think about this. Seems too similar to that OTD video.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #349 on: September 07, 2016, 03:09:19 PM »

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #350 on: September 07, 2016, 03:10:11 PM »
I dont know what to think about this. Seems too similar to that OTD video.
I fail to see the similarities. I saw this this as being strictly about Heroin, not people.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #351 on: September 07, 2016, 03:21:23 PM »
I fail to see the similarities. I saw this this as being strictly about Heroin, not people.
I was never good at deciphering poetry so please enlighten me as to the message here.
Isbit an Ode to the fallacies of heroin's promises?
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #352 on: September 07, 2016, 03:26:41 PM »
I was never good at deciphering poetry so please enlighten me as to the message here.
Isbit an Ode to the fallacies of heroin's promises?
I don't believe she was trying to convey any particular potent message.
Just voicing her unfathomable grief and frustration.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #353 on: September 07, 2016, 03:28:13 PM »


Isbit an Ode to the fallacies of heroin's promises?
That's how I took it.


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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #354 on: September 08, 2016, 09:30:04 AM »
This is why I'm not into poetry.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #355 on: September 08, 2016, 10:14:26 AM »
This is why I'm not into poetry.
+1
All this "poem" tells me is that the writer couldn't tell the difference between "heroine" and "heroin". Everyone knows that. I'm still stumped as to its meaning other than channelling sorrow in an art form...with little substance. In my first reading it was just words words words words. And thats why it reminded me of that OTD video where the gentleman was "just saying". In other words...words words words words. No action.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #356 on: September 08, 2016, 10:17:50 AM »
+1
All this "poem" tells me is that the writer couldn't tell the difference between "heroine" and "heroin".

I think you need to reread it
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #357 on: September 08, 2016, 10:19:47 AM »
I think you need to reread it
He's right. In the original, it is spelled "heroine". Seems like she thinks they are spelled and pronounced the same and her poem is based on that.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #358 on: September 08, 2016, 10:20:41 AM »
Maybe she is just trying to say how addictive and horrific heroin is. Maybe she is just trying to make more aware of this problem. Maybe she has seen this all to often and does not know where to turn.
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #359 on: September 08, 2016, 10:22:03 AM »
I think you need to reread it
Its a form of expression thats open to interpretation.

Thats what i got when I read it.  can reread it all day long. It does not tell ME anything more than I have written.

So please share what you've gotten from it. Or dont.
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