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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #360 on: September 08, 2016, 10:23:38 AM »
Maybe she is just trying to say how addictive and horrific heroin is. Maybe she is just trying to make more aware of this problem. Maybe she has seen this all to often and does not know where to turn.
I think you need to reread it
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #361 on: September 08, 2016, 10:25:51 AM »
He's right. In the original, it is spelled "heroine". Seems like she thinks they are spelled and pronounced the same and her poem is based on that.
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And the naiveté of that misconception is the basis for not appreciating the dangers of the drug.

This is actually very constructive and instructive.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #362 on: September 08, 2016, 10:40:11 AM »
I don't believe she was trying to convey any particular potent message.
Just voicing her unfathomable grief and frustration.
I was never good at deciphering poetry so please enlighten me as to the message here.
Isbit an Ode to the fallacies of heroin's promises?
That's how I took it.


I think you need to reread it
He's right. In the original, it is spelled "heroine". Seems like she thinks they are spelled and pronounced the same and her poem is based on that.
Its a form of expression thats open to interpretation.

Thats what i got when I read it.  can reread it all day long. It does not tell ME anything more than I have written.

So please share what you've gotten from it. Or dont.
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And the naiveté of that misconception is the basis for not appreciating the dangers of the drug.

This is actually very constructive and instructive.
This is why I'm not into poetry.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #363 on: September 08, 2016, 10:43:11 AM »
He's right. In the original, it is spelled "heroine". Seems like she thinks they are spelled and pronounced the same and her poem is based on that.

She spelled it both ways.
Sorry but you need to read it again if you can't understand how she uses it as a double entendre.

Maybe there's nothing good that comes out of reading the poem but if it made her feel a little better than good for her.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #364 on: September 08, 2016, 10:47:27 AM »
She spelled it both ways.
Sorry but you need to read it again if you can't understand how she uses it as a double entendre.

Maybe there's nothing good that comes out of reading the poem but if it made her feel a little better than good for her.
Conflation is not Double entendre

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #365 on: September 08, 2016, 10:57:52 AM »
Conflation is not Double entendre

She didn't conflate anything. Everything was used correctly.
Point to one part where it was conflated.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #366 on: September 08, 2016, 11:22:13 AM »
@hvaces42

If you don't get poetry than just say that, you are sounding really silly to me.

It's a beautiful poem, and yes I love poetry so maybe I'm biased. The beauty is that is is open to interpretation and allows the reader to take it to heart or not depending on how they read it and understand it, it can be much more powerful than a simply stated idea.

Before I give my interpretation I just want to say that I don't understand how you can say words words words when the main call for action that you are suggesting here is education, and how exactly is education done? "Words words words."

Words are one of the most powerful forces in the world, you will never get anywhere without using them, insulting them doesn't sound very smart to me.

Anyway with that said the poem to me is coming from a girl who is living in a similar situation, the author had a tough childhood with no one to look up to. She is an adult now and can do what she wants, many of her friends from similar backgrounds take heroin and claim that it saved them and changed their life from miserable to wonderful. Yet she has held off the easy path and been working hard to avoid it.

Being that she never had a good role model to look up to she and her friends see heroin as a heroine that can take them out of their sad life and make them instantly happy.

After a few friends being killed from heroin she is realizing it's not time to blame the person or say how good a person they were, it's time to realize that heroin is no heroine at all but rather a filthy lying scumbag who just like an abusive husband, promises to give her the world but really all it does it destroy it.

I think for someone who was considering heroin this can be very educational and a good read.

Hope that makes some sense no time to look over what I wrote atm.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #367 on: September 08, 2016, 11:25:27 AM »
@hvaces42

If you don't get poetry than just say that, you are sounding really silly to me.

It's a beautiful poem, and yes I love poetry so maybe I'm biased. The beauty is that is is open to interpretation and allows the reader to take it to heart or not depending on how they read it and understand it, it can be much more powerful than a simply stated idea.

Before I give my interpretation I just want to say that I don't understand how you can say words words words when the main call for action that you are suggesting here is education, and how exactly is education done? "Words words words."

Words one of the most powerful forces in the world, you will never get anywhere without using them, insulting them doesn't sound very smart to me.

Anyway with that said the poem to me is coming from a girl who is living in a similar situation, the author had a tough childhood with no one to look up to. She is an adult now and can do what she wants, many of her friends from similar backgrounds take heroin and claim that it saved them and changed their life from miserable to wonderful. Yet she has held off the easy path and been working hard to avoid it.

Being that she never had a good role model to look up to she and her friends see heroin as a heroine that can take them out of their sad life and make them instantly happy.

After a few friends being killed from heroin she is realizing it's not time to blame the person or say how good a person they were, it's time to realize that heroin is no heroine at all but rather a filthy lying scumbag who just like an abusive husband, promises to give her the world but really all it does it destroy it.

I think for someone who was considering heroin this can be very educational and a good read.

Hope that makes some sense no time to look over what I wrote atm.

Well said and FTFY

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #368 on: September 08, 2016, 11:27:05 AM »
Hope that makes some sense no time to look over what I wrote atm.
Words words words.  :P

Of course it makes sense.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #369 on: September 08, 2016, 11:29:58 AM »
@hvaces42

If you don't get poetry than just say that, you are sounding really silly to me.

It's a beautiful poem, and yes I love poetry so maybe I'm biased. The beauty is that is is open to interpretation and allows the reader to take it to heart or not depending on how they read it and understand it, it can be much more powerful than a simply stated idea.

Before I give my interpretation I just want to say that I don't understand how you can say words words words when the main call for action that you are suggesting here is education, and how exactly is education done? "Words words words."

Words are one of the most powerful forces in the world, you will never get anywhere without using them, insulting them doesn't sound very smart to me.

Anyway with that said the poem to me is coming from a girl who is living in a similar situation, the author had a tough childhood with no one to look up to. She is an adult now and can do what she wants, many of her friends from similar backgrounds take heroin and claim that it saved them and changed their life from miserable to wonderful. Yet she has held off the easy path and been working hard to avoid it.

Being that she never had a good role model to look up to she and her friends see heroin as a heroine that can take them out of their sad life and make them instantly happy.

After a few friends being killed from heroin she is realizing it's not time to blame the person or say how good a person they were, it's time to realize that heroin is no heroine at all but rather a filthy lying scumbag who just like an abusive husband, promises to give her the world but really all it does it destroy it.

I think for someone who was considering heroin this can be very educational and a good read.

Hope that makes some sense no time to look over what I wrote atm.
I was never good at deciphering poetry so please enlighten me as to the message here.
Isbit an Ode to the fallacies of heroin's promises?
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #370 on: September 08, 2016, 12:05:29 PM »
Maybe she is just trying to say how addictive and horrific heroin is. Maybe she is just trying to make more aware of this problem. Maybe she has seen this all to often and does not know where to turn.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #371 on: September 08, 2016, 12:31:27 PM »
@hvaces42

If you don't get poetry than just say that, you are sounding really silly to me.

It's a beautiful poem, and yes I love poetry so maybe I'm biased. The beauty is that is is open to interpretation and allows the reader to take it to heart or not depending on how they read it and understand it, it can be much more powerful than a simply stated idea.

Before I give my interpretation I just want to say that I don't understand how you can say words words words when the main call for action that you are suggesting here is education, and how exactly is education done? "Words words words."

Words are one of the most powerful forces in the world, you will never get anywhere without using them, insulting them doesn't sound very smart to me.

Anyway with that said the poem to me is coming from a girl who is living in a similar situation, the author had a tough childhood with no one to look up to. She is an adult now and can do what she wants, many of her friends from similar backgrounds take heroin and claim that it saved them and changed their life from miserable to wonderful. Yet she has held off the easy path and been working hard to avoid it.

Being that she never had a good role model to look up to she and her friends see heroin as a heroine that can take them out of their sad life and make them instantly happy.

After a few friends being killed from heroin she is realizing it's not time to blame the person or say how good a person they were, it's time to realize that heroin is no heroine at all but rather a filthy lying scumbag who just like an abusive husband, promises to give her the world but really all it does it destroy it.

I think for someone who was considering heroin this can be very educational and a good read.

Hope that makes some sense no time to look over what I wrote atm.
I appreciate the very eloquent interpretation. Thank you.

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Re: Silent Killer
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Re: Silent Killer
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