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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1020 on: January 30, 2018, 08:58:27 AM »
http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2018/01/piercing-the-darkness-of-substance-abuse-and-suicide-amudim-offers-ray-of-hope-with-describe-music-video-warning-age-restricted-video.html

See the comments. Basically decrying how "goyish" this whole thing is.

When will we wake us and understand how very Jewish this really is?

It's yeshivish, balabatish, heimish, chasidish, lubavitch, modern, satmar, etc.
Nothing "goyish" about any of it!

The music video and song where made to mimic currently popular style, which is decidedly unheimish.  Personally, I saw past that and appreciate the message Amudim is trying to get out there.  But to think that the medium chosen wouldn't alienate some is naive.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1021 on: January 30, 2018, 11:14:52 AM »
The music video and song where made to mimic currently popular style, which is decidedly unheimish.  Personally, I saw past that and appreciate the message Amudim is trying to get out there.  But to think that the medium chosen wouldn't alienate some is naive.
I agree that the song style is goyish, but so are many other current songs. Noone would protest any other song of the same style...

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1022 on: January 30, 2018, 11:54:10 AM »
The music video and song where made to mimic currently popular style, which is decidedly unheimish.  Personally, I saw past that and appreciate the message Amudim is trying to get out there.  But to think that the medium chosen wouldn't alienate some is naive.
I think those people are alienated by the subject matter as well.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1023 on: January 30, 2018, 11:56:02 AM »
I think those people are alienated by the subject matter as well.
Primarily imho

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1024 on: January 30, 2018, 12:05:54 PM »
I think those people are alienated by the subject matter as well.
They're not alienated at all they're willfully blind. Keeping their head in the sand. How pathetic is it that people can be alienated by reality
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1025 on: January 30, 2018, 12:13:18 PM »
They're not alienated at all they're willfully blind. Keeping their head in the sand. How pathetic is it that people can be alienated by reality
It was playing off of his comment:
...But to think that the medium chosen wouldn't alienate some is naive.
Ie that the people saying why did they make a music video like that have more of an issue with the subject matter than the choice of music/video style.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1026 on: January 30, 2018, 12:57:24 PM »
The guy is cracked. Who exactly will benefit from this video and what is the purpose of getting graphic? There's a very long road between the bottom of the rug  and this.

Please don't tell me there's a video coming on the other problem he's tackling.

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1027 on: January 30, 2018, 01:17:54 PM »
The guy is cracked. Who exactly will benefit from this video and what is the purpose of getting graphic? There's a very long road between the bottom of the rug  and this.

Please don't tell me there's a video coming on the other problem he's tackling.
Im sure many sickos are waiting with baited breath.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1028 on: January 30, 2018, 01:31:37 PM »
The guy is cracked. Who exactly will benefit from this video and what is the purpose of getting graphic? There's a very long road between the bottom of the rug  and this.

Please don't tell me there's a video coming on the other problem he's tackling.
Desensitize the problem to the masses.

This is not something that only affects lowlives living in gettos.. or homeless.

There are basements in Ir hatorah vehachasidus full of broken bottles, vials of crack and used syringes.

Question is a) Are you aware of this? B) Is there a benefit of you being aware?

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1029 on: January 30, 2018, 01:53:53 PM »
Desensitize the problem to the masses.

This is not something that only affects lowlives living in gettos.. or homeless.

There are basements in Ir hatorah vehachasidus full of broken bottles, vials of crack and used syringes.

Question is a) Are you aware of this? B) Is there a benefit of you being aware?
The benefits to ALL parents is to realize that it could happen to anyone, to be on guard, look for warning signs, and take necessary precautions/actions.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1030 on: January 30, 2018, 02:10:32 PM »
http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2018/01/piercing-the-darkness-of-substance-abuse-and-suicide-amudim-offers-ray-of-hope-with-describe-music-video-warning-age-restricted-video.html

See the comments. Basically decrying how "goyish" this whole thing is.

When will we wake us and understand how very Jewish this really is?

It's yeshivish, balabatish, heimish, chasidish, lubavitch, modern, satmar, etc.
Nothing "goyish" about any of it!
i wish they never wake up. lucky are those people who think its just goish! no one should ever need to find out how close to home this is!
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1031 on: January 30, 2018, 02:14:19 PM »
i wish they never wake up. lucky are those people who think its just goish! no one should ever need to find out how close to home this is!
The best bet to ensure that it doesn't hit people close to home is if they wake up! If they're in denial of its existence, and don't know what to look out for, it'll eventually happen to them.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1032 on: January 30, 2018, 02:19:33 PM »
The best bet to ensure that it doesn't hit people close to home is if they wake up! If they're in denial of its existence, and don't know what to look out for, it'll eventually happen to them.
i politely disagree, the best way is yo daven. no need to be aware of nothing.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1033 on: January 30, 2018, 02:21:39 PM »
i politely disagree, the best way is yo daven. no need to be aware of nothing.
+10000000
Also to stick your head in the nearest hole in the ground and to take a large puff of the exhaust pipe of the nearest running vehicle.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1034 on: January 30, 2018, 02:25:08 PM »
The best bet to ensure that it doesn't hit people close to home is if they wake up! If they're in denial of its existence, and don't know what to look out for, it'll eventually happen to them.
and as if after this video you know what to look out for!
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1035 on: January 30, 2018, 02:30:56 PM »
Desensitize the problem to the masses.

This is not something that only affects lowlives living in gettos.. or homeless.

There are basements in Ir hatorah vehachasidus full of broken bottles, vials of crack and used syringes.

Question is a) Are you aware of this? B) Is there a benefit of you being aware?
Amudim deserves a lot of credit for raising awareness of the issue and offering assistance/guidance, but if his target audience is naive people, how does this video prove anything about basements in the ihr hatoireh?

My guess is that it's targeted to kids who are nebech affected and is trying to offer them hope. Strategy is to show to the masses and 'if it saves one kid it was all worth it'. I'm not in a position to disagree, but we don't show mangled corpses to encourage safer driving etc. Should we? 

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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1036 on: January 30, 2018, 02:33:56 PM »

My guess is that it's targeted to kids who are nebech affected and is trying to offer them hope. Strategy is to show to the masses and 'if it saves one kid it was all worth it'. I'm not in a position to disagree, but we don't show mangled corpses to encourage safer driving etc. Should we?
Ever seen MADD ads? Been to Fallsburg at the end of the summer where a mangled car from a fatal accident is on display on the high school lawn?

Of course shock is a good way to raise awareness.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1037 on: January 30, 2018, 02:34:52 PM »
Amudim deserves a lot of credit for raising awareness of the issue and offering assistance/guidance, but if his target audience is naive people, how does this video prove anything about basements in the ihr hatoireh?

My guess is that it's targeted to kids who are nebech affected and is trying to offer them hope. Strategy is to show to the masses and 'if it saves one kid it was all worth it'. I'm not in a position to disagree, but we don't show mangled corpses to encourage safer driving etc. Should we?

yes. They show results and professional videos of drunken driver head-on collisions during Drivers' Ed courses for teens. Very powerful and effective.

This video is of extreme importance. It is also good for parents of teens to see that anything can happen in a minute. Literally life or death. Unexpected. At any time.
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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1038 on: January 30, 2018, 03:07:00 PM »


Amudim deserves a lot of credit for raising awareness of the issue and offering assistance/guidance, but if his target audience is naive people, how does this video prove anything about basements in the ihr hatoireh?

My guess is that it's targeted to kids who are nebech affected and is trying to offer them hope. Strategy is to show to the masses and 'if it saves one kid it was all worth it'. I'm not in a position to disagree, but we don't show mangled corpses to encourage safer driving etc. Should we?

It is absolutely targeted to the masses of naive people like you, who think it's a goyisheh problem,and probably only affects "nebach kids".

It's unfortunately a global problem that affects much more than some kids.

Not sure I understand your aurgument that this video can't help educate the naive masses, that the scourge of addiction can and does affect almost anyone.


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Re: Silent Killer
« Reply #1039 on: January 30, 2018, 03:08:16 PM »
and as if after this video you know what to look out for!
Maybe just a tiny bit.