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PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« on: August 10, 2016, 11:16:26 PM »
https://twitter.com/asburyparkpress/status/763380998457425920

Please take 30 seconds of your time and vote yes on this poll.

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2016, 11:55:31 PM »
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1) Can you explain how using words like "budgeting" will cause $23 million+ to appear out of thin air? I'm looking into doing some "budgeting" of my own
2) Can you name a program that has ever cost less run by the government, than the private sector?
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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2021, 10:03:56 PM »
https://twitter.com/YossiWolk/status/1414935474662166536
1) What’s happening ?
2) what’s the chance of them ever collecting it ?

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2021, 10:10:36 PM »
1) What’s happening ?
2) what’s the chance of them ever collecting it ?
Administrative Judge ruled that Lakewood is not able to supply a Thorough and Efficient education based on the current formula, however, the formula is constitutional. Lang believes that an appeals court/supreme court will use the judges assertion that the district is underfunded to overturn the formula. BOE however insists that they ARE able to supply a T&E education, a claim Lang believes will destroy his whole case. He is therefore furious that the BOE is sabotaging all Lakewood residents.

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2021, 10:12:46 PM »
Administrative Judge ruled that Lakewood is not able to supply a Thorough and Efficient education based on the current formula, however, the formula is constitutional. Lang believes that an appeals court/supreme court will use the judges assertion that the district is underfunded to overturn the formula. BOE however insists that they ARE able to supply a T&E education, a claim Lang believes will destroy his whole case. He is therefore furious that the BOE is sabotaging all Lakewood residents.
Why would the BOE do that?
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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2021, 10:16:29 PM »
Administrative Judge ruled that Lakewood is not able to supply a Thorough and Efficient education based on the current formula, however, the formula is constitutional. Lang believes that an appeals court/supreme court will use the judges assertion that the district is underfunded to overturn the formula. BOE however insists that they ARE able to supply a T&E education, a claim Lang believes will destroy his whole case. He is therefore furious that the BOE is sabotaging all Lakewood residents.

Sorry, my reading comprehension is at an all time low :( why is Frum Lakewooders’ debt going to increase by $100k because of this ruling?

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2021, 10:17:46 PM »
1) What’s happening ?
2) what’s the chance of them ever collecting it ?
The state funding formula for education works against neighborhoods that a bigger percentage sends to private schools, Monsey and some other non Jewish communities have the same issue

the give financial aid based on how rich/poor the district is which is calculated by = Total real estate value / Public School pupils
they take the real estate value of all residents including those that send to private schools divided by public schools, so if you the real estate of 75k children from the private schools divided by 15k public school students, it seems to be a rich neighborhood and we lose funding year after year
even though the BOE is required to provide mandatory services for private students, special ed, etc.

the local government doesn't have the funds so they borrow year after year, the loans get bigger and bigger

this is a 7 year law suite and MI representing the Lakewood BOE made an announcement that I cant wrap me head around, that the sate does provide the constitutional education, which basically sinks the case if position is accepted.

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2021, 10:20:01 PM »
Why would the BOE do that?
1) back room deal with the state?
2) scared about (more) bad press/anti semitism?
3) personal egos/reputations on the line?

#3 is most plausible to me.

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2021, 10:20:50 PM »
1) back room deal with the state?
2) scared about (more) bad press/anti semitism?
3) personal egos/reputations on the line?

#3 is most plausible to me.
meh on all 3 most of all the last.
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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2021, 10:22:52 PM »
meh on all 3 most of all the last.
4) ?

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2021, 10:23:45 PM »
1) back room deal with the state?
2) scared about (more) bad press/anti semitism?
3) personal egos/reputations on the line?

#3 is most plausible to me.
and why are we all quite about it

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2021, 10:26:46 PM »
4) ?
Dunno. What do they say about it?
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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2021, 11:11:03 PM »
The BOE position and attitude to Aaron Lang is absolutely mind boggling. And cruel.

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2021, 11:14:34 PM »
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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2021, 11:16:31 PM »
Dan can you write a post about this (and of course how Cleveland shines)
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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2021, 01:24:40 AM »
Sorry, my reading comprehension is at an all time low :( why is Frum Lakewooders’ debt going to increase by $100k because of this ruling?

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the Lakewood BOE keeps borrowing tens of millions of dollars from the state to balance the budget. He is calculating that if the funding formula doesn't change and they continue borrowing eventually it will increase the debt to an amount equal 100k per homeowner

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Re: PLEASE HELP LAKEWOOD
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2021, 01:26:55 AM »
4) ?
4) afraid somehow the corruption will be affected by this

and that would explain
The BOE position and attitude to Aaron Lang is absolutely mind boggling. And cruel.