Author Topic: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA (Read 59374 times)

rileywiles23 · « **on:** August 28, 2016, 05:00:35 PM »

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yuneeq · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2016, 05:22:25 PM »

Dumb thing to do because will hate him for it but I have no problem with him sitting.
Patriotism is the only religion that if anyone dares question their loyalty they are burnt at the stake.

JTZ · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2016, 07:08:44 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 28, 2016, 05:22:25 PM

Patriotism is the only religion that if anyone dares question their loyalty they are burnt at the stake.

A guess it depends what the flag means to you.

aygart · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2016, 07:16:58 PM »

ShlockDoc · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2016, 07:19:23 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 28, 2016, 05:22:25 PM

Dumb thing to do because will hate him for it but I have no problem with him sitting.
Patriotism is the only religion that if anyone dares question their loyalty they are burnt at the stake.

This is literally what almost all religions have done through the ages.

yuneeq · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2016, 07:44:31 PM »

Quote from: ShlockDoc on August 28, 2016, 07:19:23 PM

This is literally what almost all religions have done through the ages.

Agreed.
But it's not like that anymore besides for Islam.
The flag has the craziest followers.

yuneeq · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2016, 07:45:49 PM »

Quote from: JTZ on August 28, 2016, 07:08:44 PM

A guess it depends what the flag means to you.

The flag stands for everything this country represents both for good and for bad.
And some of the bad just ain't pretty.

JTZ · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2016, 07:47:05 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 28, 2016, 07:44:31 PM

The flag has the craziest followers.

Coming from someone that follows Judaism please give your definition of "craziest".

yuneeq · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2016, 07:50:26 PM »

Quote from: JTZ on August 28, 2016, 07:47:05 PM

Coming from someone that follows Judaism please give your definition of "craziest".

Crazy meaning you got the extreme left the extreme right and everyone in between as subscribers.
Whenever a whole nation follows the same religion it becomes a breeding ground for the crazies among them.

JTZ · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2016, 07:52:37 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 28, 2016, 07:50:26 PM

Crazy meaning you got the extreme left the extreme right and everyone in between as subscribers.
Whenever a whole nation follows the same religion it becomes a breeding ground for the crazies among them.

I don't agree but why would you call it a religion?

Sport · « **Reply #10 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:08:30 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 28, 2016, 07:45:49 PM

The flag stands for everything this country represents both for good and for bad.
And some of the bad just ain't pretty.

And that is exactly what bother people he has no problem taking advantage of the good so show some gratitude
And The bad aint any worse than anywhere else in the world.

yuneeq · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:20:55 PM »

Quote from: JTZ on August 28, 2016, 07:52:37 PM

I don't agree but why would you call it a religion?

Because it looks like a religion and quacks like a religion.
Substitute cross for flag.

At all sports games everyone rises in honor of the US cross which represents the parcel of land they were born on. They then recite their pledge of allegiance to the cross. Those who don't believe in the US cross are still pressured to pledge allegiance to the cross or they live in fear of ostricization.

Interestingly, this practice is common on basically every inhabited parcel of land in the world, where the occupants are loyal to their local cross, because each one believes their cross is the greatest cross.

Sport · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:25:59 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 28, 2016, 08:20:55 PM

Because it looks like a religion and quacks like a religion.
Substitute cross for flag.

At all sports games everyone rises in honor of the US cross which represents the parcel of land they were born on. They then recite their pledge of allegiance to the cross. Those who don't believe in the US cross are still pressured to pledge allegiance to the cross or they live in fear of ostricization.

Interestingly, this practice is common on basically every inhabited parcel of land in the world, where the occupants are loyal to their local cross, because each one believes their cross is the greatest cross.

your use of the word "believe" here is taking some major liberties.

yuneeq · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:28:22 PM »

Quote from: Sport on August 28, 2016, 08:08:30 PM

And that is exactly what bother people he has no problem taking advantage of the good so show some gratitude
And The bad aint any worse than anywhere else in the world.

Forced gratitude is a thing?
And yes the bad is worse than other countries in certain cases.
For example, police brutality is a bigger issue in the US than in many other civilized countries.

If I had to name this religion I would call it this.

yuneeq · « **Reply #14 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:30:41 PM »

Quote from: Sport on August 28, 2016, 08:25:59 PM

your use of the word "believe" here is taking some major liberties.

Maybe they don't believe in the flag, but they are loyal to it. So loyal is the correct word.
But otherwise, as a general rule everyones believes their flag is the greatest flag.

@Yehuda · « **Reply #15 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:32:08 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 28, 2016, 08:28:22 PM

Forced gratitude is a thing?
And yes the bad is worse than other countries in certain cases.
For example, police brutality is a bigger issue in the US than in many other civilized countries.

If I had to name this religion I would call it this.

Systemic police brutality against blacks is made up. http://www.dailywire.com/news/7347/7-statistics-show-systemic-racism-doesnt-exist-aaron-bandler

Sport · « **Reply #16 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:36:38 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 28, 2016, 08:28:22 PM

Forced gratitude is a thing?
And yes the bad is worse than other countries in certain cases.
For example, police brutality is a bigger issue in the US than in many other civilized countries.

If I had to name this religion I would call it this.

No ones forcing him to show gratitude, but they have the right to be disgusted by an ingrate.
I can't compare to other countries, I can't even get clear facts on police brutality in America. I'm sure it exists and is an issue that may even warrant him getting involved in. But it's disgraceful to act as if America as a whole is a dispicable country.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:36:45 PM »

If white people weren't interested in stupid sports, they'd be washing toilets.

yuneeq · « **Reply #18 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:38:07 PM »

Quote from: @Yehuda on August 28, 2016, 08:32:08 PM

Systemic police brutality against blacks is made up. http://www.dailywire.com/news/7347/7-statistics-show-systemic-racism-doesnt-exist-aaron-bandler

I know Kaepernick situation is about blacks but my point wasn't.
I was talking about police brutality in general.

yuneeq · « **Reply #19 on:** August 28, 2016, 08:42:45 PM »

Quote from: Sport on August 28, 2016, 08:36:38 PM

No ones forcing him to show gratitude, but they have the right to be disgusted by an ingrate.

This guy says it best

Everyone has the right to get disgusted or offended. But why should I care? The only thing that matters to me is that people are so goddamned judgmental.

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I can't compare to other countries, I can't even get clear facts on police brutality in America. I'm sure it exists and is an issue that may even warrant him getting involved in. But it's disgraceful to act as if America as a whole is a dispicable country.

Well then you might want to educate yourself and return when you have the cold hard facts.
Now who said America is despicable?
If I don't like a sports team I don't watch them.
If I'm not a fan of the flag I don't need to stand up for it.