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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #120 on: August 31, 2016, 09:38:50 AM »
The noobs may let you get away with flopping but you can't fool me. Play devil's advocate all you want, just don't expect me not to call a flip when I see it.

It takes a special type of troll to always speak to vague they can say whatever they want and act like they never said an opinion.
If you are going to try and out troll this n00b you better bring it. From the beginning I have said he disrespected the flag. I knew the reason why he did but totally disagree with it. If you have some facts to add please do.  :P
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #121 on: August 31, 2016, 09:53:06 AM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #122 on: August 31, 2016, 10:09:37 AM »
From fb:

An Open Letter to Colin Kaepernick,

Dear Colin guess you have been pretty busy these last few days. For the record I don’t think any more or less of you for not standing for the National Anthem. Honestly, I never thought that much about you, or any professional athlete for that matter, to begin with. I’ve read your statement a few times and want you to know I am one of the reasons you are protesting. You see I am a retired police officer that had the misfortune of having to shoot and kill a 19-year-old African American male. And just like you said, I was the recipient of about $3,000 a month while on leave which was a good thing because I had to support a wife and three children under 7-years-old for about 2 months with that money. Things were pretty tight because I couldn’t work part time. Every police officer I’ve ever known has worked part-time to help make ends meet.

You know Colin the more I think about it the more we seem to have in common. I really pushed myself in rehab to get back on the street, kind of like you do to get back on the field. You probably have had a broken bone or two and some muscle strains and deep bruising that needed a lot of work. I just had to bounce back from a gunshot wound to the chest and thigh. Good thing we both get paid when we are too banged up to “play”, huh? We both also know what it’s like to get blindsided. You by a 280- pound defensive end, ouch! Me, by a couple of rounds fired from a gun about 2 feet away, into my chest and thigh. We also both make our living wearing uniforms, right? You have probably ruined a jersey or two on the field of play. I still have my blood stained shirt that my partner and paramedics literally ripped off my back that cold night in January. Fortunately, like you I was given a new one. Speaking of paramedics aren’t you glad the second we get hurt trainers and doctors are standing by waiting to rush onto the field to scoop us up. I’m thankful they get to you in seconds. It only took them about 10 minutes to get to me. By the grace of God, the artery in my thigh didn’t rupture or else 10 minutes would have been about 9 minutes too late. We also have both experienced the hate and disgust others have just because of those uniforms we wear. I sure am glad for your sake that the folks who wear my uniform are on hand to escort you and those folks that wear your uniform into stadiums in places like Seattle!

I guess that’s where the similarities end Colin. You entertain for a living, I and almost 800,000 others across this country serve and protect. Are there some bad apples within my profession? Absolutely and they need to be identified and fired or arrested! But you know what, the vast majority do the right thing, the right way, for the right reason. Did I mention that seconds before I was shot, an elderly African American gentleman walking down the sidewalk, turned to my partner and I as we rode past and said, “Get them.” Get who you ask? The thugs terrorizing an otherwise good and decent neighborhood, home to dozens of good, decent African American families trying to raise those families in communities not protected by gates and security guards. No these folks and families depend on America’s Law Enforcement Officers.

Colin I have buried 7 friends, killed in the line of duty and three others who have committed suicide. I have attended more funerals than I care to remember of neighboring departments who have lost officers in the line of duty, during my career. Law Enforcement Officers with different backgrounds, upbringings, and experiences united by their willingness to answer the call to protect and serve their fellow citizens.

Colin I am sorry for the endorsement deals you may lose and the dip in jersey sales, but please know you will NEVER lose what these men and women and their families have lost. And so whether you stand or sit during the National Anthem or not means very little to me. As for me and the men and women on whose team I was privileged to serve, we will put on our ballistic vests, badge, and gun, kiss our loved one’s goodbye, for some tragically for the last time, and out into a shift of uncertainty we will go. We will continue to protect and continue to serve and we will be standing at attention Colin, not just for the playing of our National Anthem, but far more importantly for the playing of Taps.

V/R
 Chris Amos

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #123 on: August 31, 2016, 10:10:07 AM »
I'd say the bigger sin was wearing the X hat in 2016. Where did he even find that? Spike Lee had a garage sale?

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #124 on: August 31, 2016, 10:39:51 AM »


here is my counter point made by a hot blonde.



OUCH!!!
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #125 on: August 31, 2016, 10:44:33 AM »
From fb:

An Open Letter to Colin Kaepernick,

Dear Colin guess you have been pretty busy these last few days. For the record I don’t think any more or less of you for not standing for the National Anthem. Honestly, I never thought that much about you, or any professional athlete for that matter, to begin with. I’ve read your statement a few times and want you to know I am one of the reasons you are protesting. You see I am a retired police officer that had the misfortune of having to shoot and kill a 19-year-old African American male. And just like you said, I was the recipient of about $3,000 a month while on leave which was a good thing because I had to support a wife and three children under 7-years-old for about 2 months with that money. Things were pretty tight because I couldn’t work part time. Every police officer I’ve ever known has worked part-time to help make ends meet.

You know Colin the more I think about it the more we seem to have in common. I really pushed myself in rehab to get back on the street, kind of like you do to get back on the field. You probably have had a broken bone or two and some muscle strains and deep bruising that needed a lot of work. I just had to bounce back from a gunshot wound to the chest and thigh. Good thing we both get paid when we are too banged up to “play”, huh? We both also know what it’s like to get blindsided. You by a 280- pound defensive end, ouch! Me, by a couple of rounds fired from a gun about 2 feet away, into my chest and thigh. We also both make our living wearing uniforms, right? You have probably ruined a jersey or two on the field of play. I still have my blood stained shirt that my partner and paramedics literally ripped off my back that cold night in January. Fortunately, like you I was given a new one. Speaking of paramedics aren’t you glad the second we get hurt trainers and doctors are standing by waiting to rush onto the field to scoop us up. I’m thankful they get to you in seconds. It only took them about 10 minutes to get to me. By the grace of God, the artery in my thigh didn’t rupture or else 10 minutes would have been about 9 minutes too late. We also have both experienced the hate and disgust others have just because of those uniforms we wear. I sure am glad for your sake that the folks who wear my uniform are on hand to escort you and those folks that wear your uniform into stadiums in places like Seattle!

I guess that’s where the similarities end Colin. You entertain for a living, I and almost 800,000 others across this country serve and protect. Are there some bad apples within my profession? Absolutely and they need to be identified and fired or arrested! But you know what, the vast majority do the right thing, the right way, for the right reason. Did I mention that seconds before I was shot, an elderly African American gentleman walking down the sidewalk, turned to my partner and I as we rode past and said, “Get them.” Get who you ask? The thugs terrorizing an otherwise good and decent neighborhood, home to dozens of good, decent African American families trying to raise those families in communities not protected by gates and security guards. No these folks and families depend on America’s Law Enforcement Officers.

Colin I have buried 7 friends, killed in the line of duty and three others who have committed suicide. I have attended more funerals than I care to remember of neighboring departments who have lost officers in the line of duty, during my career. Law Enforcement Officers with different backgrounds, upbringings, and experiences united by their willingness to answer the call to protect and serve their fellow citizens.

Colin I am sorry for the endorsement deals you may lose and the dip in jersey sales, but please know you will NEVER lose what these men and women and their families have lost. And so whether you stand or sit during the National Anthem or not means very little to me. As for me and the men and women on whose team I was privileged to serve, we will put on our ballistic vests, badge, and gun, kiss our loved one’s goodbye, for some tragically for the last time, and out into a shift of uncertainty we will go. We will continue to protect and continue to serve and we will be standing at attention Colin, not just for the playing of our National Anthem, but far more importantly for the playing of Taps.

V/R
 Chris Amos
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #126 on: August 31, 2016, 10:46:04 AM »
Do you have a link for that?
Don't you belong to any white supremacist websites?  :P
https://www.facebook.com/chris.amos.96/posts/10154458693872505
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #127 on: August 31, 2016, 11:41:40 AM »
Don't you belong to any white supremacist websites? 
https://www.facebook.com/chris.amos.96/posts/10154458693872505
Whyd you have to out me like that?!

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #128 on: August 31, 2016, 11:43:58 AM »
You can troll, we don't mind.

Nobody knows why he did it because they don't care why. If you listen to him you know exactly why he says he did it but here is my counter point made by a hot blonde.



1) If you don't like America, leave? How idiotic. This is a democratic country.
If you don't like it, don't leave, CHANGE IT! That's the beauty of this place.
(Now I'm wondering why her ancestors didn't give black slaves the option of leaving).

2) He can't talk (or whine as she calls it) about racism because he grew up in a white household and didn't experience it?
The opposite, if he grew up in a black home you would say he's just giving excuses.
The fact that he sympathizes with people's problems that he doesn't experience himself is an admirable trait, even if you think he is misguided in his actions. I've never heard someone saying, "You don't have cancer, how dare you speak up about issues cancer patients face?".

3) Some other incoherent ramblings about freedom of speech, the national anthem, and patriotism.

4) He should rip up his paycheck. I didn't see this loony ripping up her paycheck to express her thoughts, but he should because why? The truth is, he did rip up paychecks to make his protest, also known as future endorsements and contracts.


My main point is, yelling at the camera doesn't make her more correct, it detracts from her arguments.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #129 on: August 31, 2016, 11:56:42 AM »
My main point is, yelling at the camera doesn't make her more correct, it detracts from her arguments.
You could have left the first four items out if this was your point.  ???
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #130 on: August 31, 2016, 12:09:04 PM »
You could have left the first four items out if this was your point.  ???


It seems like the people here ate it up hook line and sinker.
I could have bashed her tone alone, but that's a fallacious argument.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tone_argument

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #132 on: August 31, 2016, 05:33:56 PM »
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-execs-kaepernick-is-a-traitor-hated-as-much-as-rae-carruth/ar-AAiklKL?li=BBnb7Kz


Kaepernick has been looking worse and worse as the story goes on. But to compare him to a guy who was convicted for helping murder his girlfriend and baby is just absurd.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #133 on: August 31, 2016, 05:44:00 PM »
Kaepernick has been looking worse and worse as the story goes on. But to compare him to a guy who was convicted for helping murder his girlfriend and baby is just absurd.
The article makes that point.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #134 on: August 31, 2016, 05:52:06 PM »
The article makes that point.

1) "[Carruth] was convicted of devising a plan to murder his pregnant girlfriend."
Forgets to mention that the murder actually took place, which is 20x worse than simply devising a plan.

2) "[Kaepernick] certainly doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Carruth."
So stop giving a voice to anonymous loonies and don't print extremely ridiculous comparisons!

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #135 on: August 31, 2016, 05:54:40 PM »
So stop giving a voice to anonymous loonies and don't print extremely ridiculous comparisons!
Did you read the short article. The main point was you can put a fork in this guy.

"For those of you who are unfamiliar with Carruth’s story, the former star wide receiver remains in jail after he was convicted of devising a plan to murder his pregnant girlfriend.

That seems a bit harsh. Many people feel Kaepernick’s decision to protest the national anthem is disrespectful, but he certainly doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Carruth."
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #136 on: August 31, 2016, 06:02:52 PM »
Did you read the short article. The main point was you can put a fork in this guy.

"For those of you who are unfamiliar with Carruth’s story, the former star wide receiver remains in jail after he was convicted of devising a plan to murder his pregnant girlfriend.

That seems a bit harsh. Many people feel Kaepernick’s decision to protest the national anthem is disrespectful, but he certainly doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Carruth."


I read the whole thing. Still don't agree in posting crazy comparisons that come from anonymous loonies who don't put anything on the line. It's not newsworthy until the journalist decided it is.

But yeah, Kaepernick is toast- unless he plays like a star again. And if that happens, teams will happily ignore his actions as long as it doesn't affect the bottom line, because that's all the matters at the end of the day.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #137 on: September 01, 2016, 01:57:57 PM »

Can't wait for tonight's game as he will get booed profusely in San Diego, when the 49ers visit the Chargers for their final preseason game. Could you imagine that tonight is “Salute to the Military” night at San Diego’s Qualcomm Stadium. Going to be EPIC.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #138 on: September 01, 2016, 02:02:19 PM »
Could you imagine that tonight is “Salute to the Military” night at San Diego’s Qualcomm Stadium. Going to be EPIC.

He's getting a lot of support from veterans. Many believe that his protest is exactly the freedom that they fought for...

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #139 on: September 01, 2016, 02:09:16 PM »
He's getting a lot of support from veterans. Many believe that his protest is exactly the freedom that they fought for...

Really? Where did you learn that? Someone took a poll? Or a few well-placed op-eds gave you that impression?