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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #220 on: September 02, 2016, 05:57:04 PM »
He knew he would lose endorsements the second he decided to protest
I don't give him that much credit

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #221 on: September 02, 2016, 06:27:06 PM »
Was there a real threat to his endorsement contracts?
  For the record I'm not a fan of using endorsements (money) as a means to censor anyone even a fool like him. Unless the company felt that by alienating fans his endorsement was worth less in which case its no intended to censor but its a financial decision.
Why not? He has a right to do/say whatever he wants but the company and its owner/board doesn't?

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #222 on: September 02, 2016, 06:51:45 PM »
Why not? He has a right to do/say whatever he wants but the company and its owner/board doesn't?
They do have the right to do what they please. I still am not a fan. Its bullying someone who has a diffrent opinion as opposed to engaging in discourse.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #223 on: September 03, 2016, 09:57:32 PM »
You are limiting BLM to an org when they're much bigger than that.
If I said: Kaep will donate to 1 million to flag lovers.
That means he will donate to the official Flag Lovers® organization?
Exactly. So now why did you bring up that BLM is a movement and not an organization?
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #224 on: September 03, 2016, 11:48:41 PM »
Exactly. So now why did you bring up that BLM is a movement and not an organization?

Because you clearly can't comprehend the difference.
Is BLM bad or good?
Doesn't it depend where exactly the money is going to?

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #225 on: September 03, 2016, 11:56:18 PM »
Because you clearly can't comprehend the difference.
Is BLM bad or good?
Doesn't it depend where exactly the money is going to?
And what is it that makes you think that it will go to any half normal group? This is a guy who said he can't respect this country and who wore pig cop socks. Why does his donating money to exactly the same cause he is promoting which is overrun by crazies change anything at all?
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #226 on: September 04, 2016, 12:00:23 AM »
And what is it that makes you think that it will go to any half normal group? This is a guy who said he can't respect this country and who wore pig cop socks. Why does his donating money to exactly the same cause he is promoting which is overrun by crazies change anything at all?

Just curious did you criticize MJ too?

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #227 on: September 04, 2016, 12:18:41 AM »
Just curious did you criticize MJ too?
for what?
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #228 on: September 04, 2016, 07:34:37 AM »
Just curious did you criticize MJ too?
Just curious why would you compare MJ to this hater?

"As a proud American, a father who lost his own dad in a senseless act of violence, and a black man, I have been deeply troubled by the deaths of African-Americans at the hands of law enforcement and angered by the cowardly and hateful targeting and killing of police officers. I grieve with the families who have lost loved ones, as I know their pain all too well.

“I was raised by parents who taught me to love and respect people regardless of their race or background, so I am saddened and frustrated by the divisive rhetoric and racial tensions that seem to be getting worse as of late. I know this country is better than that, and I can no longer stay silent. We need to find solutions that ensure people of color receive fair and equal treatment AND that police officers – who put their lives on the line every day to protect us all – are respected and supported.

“Over the past three decades I have seen up close the dedication of the law enforcement officers who protect me and my family. I have the greatest respect for their sacrifice and service. I also recognize that for many people of color their experiences with law enforcement have been different than mine. I have decided to speak out in the hope that we can come together as Americans, and through peaceful dialogue and education, achieve constructive change.

“To support that effort, I am making contributions of $1 million each to two organizations, the International Association of Chiefs of Police’s newly established Institute for Community-Police Relations and the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. The Institute for Community-Police Relations’ policy and oversight work is focused on building trust and promoting best practices in community policing. My donation to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, the nation’s oldest civil rights law organization, will support its ongoing work in support of reforms that will build trust and respect between communities and law enforcement. Although I know these contributions alone are not enough to solve the problem, I hope the resources will help both organizations make a positive difference.

“We are privileged to live in the world’s greatest country – a country that has provided my family and me the greatest of opportunities. The problems we face didn’t happen overnight and they won’t be solved tomorrow, but if we all work together, we can foster greater understanding, positive change and create a more peaceful world for ourselves, our children, our families and our communities.”
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #229 on: September 05, 2016, 08:30:35 AM »
Now the flag stands for gay rights. Using this logic no one should ever stand during the anthem again. I am sure we can all find something we disagree with in this country. What a bunch of nut jobs.

http://my.xfinity.com/articles/sports-general/20160905/SOC-Rapinoe-Anthem-Kneel/
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #230 on: September 05, 2016, 09:24:13 AM »
Now the flag stands for gay rights. Using this logic no one should ever stand during the anthem again. I am sure we can all find something we disagree with in this country. What a bunch of nut jobs.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #231 on: September 05, 2016, 12:25:22 PM »
Just curious why would you compare MJ to this hater?

My bad, I thought MJ donated to a BLM type of org.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #232 on: September 05, 2016, 12:28:01 PM »
BTW, since you wrote that you do not understand the significance of kneeling in football, with my limited understanding I think it is supposed to be similar to how at the end of a game a QB will "take a knee" to automatically down himself and run out the clock. In this context it would be a sign of surrender.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #233 on: September 05, 2016, 02:04:50 PM »
My bad, I thought MJ donated to a BLM type of org.
NP, MJ always seems to stay neutral on these situations.
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #234 on: September 05, 2016, 02:05:39 PM »
BTW, since you wrote that you do not understand the significance of kneeling in football, with my limited understanding I think it is supposed to be similar to how at the end of a game a QB will "take a knee" to automatically down himself and run out the clock. In this context it would be a sign of surrender.
Your limited understanding is 100% wrong.  :)
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #235 on: September 05, 2016, 03:13:41 PM »
Your limited understanding is 100% wrong.  :)
okay so please explain better
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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #236 on: September 05, 2016, 05:17:14 PM »
BTW, since you wrote that you do not understand the significance of kneeling in football, with my limited understanding I think it is supposed to be similar to how at the end of a game a QB will "take a knee" to automatically down himself and run out the clock. In this context it would be a sign of surrender.

How'd you get to that conclusion?
In football, you kneel when you are WINNING.

It had nothing to do with football.
Kneeling is a symbol of respect, like kneeling in front of royalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kneeling#As_expression_of_reverence_and_submission

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #237 on: September 05, 2016, 05:31:57 PM »
How'd you get to that conclusion?
In football, you kneel when you are WINNING.

It had nothing to do with football.
Kneeling is a symbol of respect, like kneeling in front of royalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kneeling#As_expression_of_reverence_and_submission
BS. He has no respect. If he did, he would do what is the norm and  excepted in this country, in the 21st century (namely stand and/or put his hand on his heart). Maybe in other countries or 200 years ago people kneel to show respect. But not here and not in 2016.
Its one thing for u to say u understand him, he has a right to protest, USA has an issue, etc but don't start saying he was showing respect.

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #238 on: September 05, 2016, 05:37:05 PM »
but don't start saying he was showing respect.

I think it's fair to say it was a compromise.  He's demonstrating but still showing deference.  He started the protest by sitting and switched to this.  I think he took the feedback to heart and switched to kneeling. 

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Re: Colin Kaepernick protest against USA
« Reply #239 on: September 05, 2016, 05:39:51 PM »
I think it's fair to say it was a compromise.  He's demonstrating but still showing deference.  He started the protest by sitting and switched to this.  I think he took the feedback to heart and switched to kneeling.
Possibly