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Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« on: August 29, 2016, 09:43:21 PM »
First TR from me (just realised how much I've written!). I had some inspiration in planning from DDF so only fair to share. Still here so pics to come hopefully in due course.

Booked in the fashion that I like - not too far in advance - we started looking into the trip about 6 weeks before leaving and booked about a month in advance. What started off as five days to a week in the sun (villa in Spain?) was to become a bit more.

In the end with the dates set to take advantage of a bank holiday, Argentina was booked. I'd already taken to the web to have a look at ideas of where to go, what to do and what to see and had a look at some forums.

In the end, we dismissed the conventional the vacation route of Iguazu (save for a Brazil trip, Zika, flights didn't work) for Patagonia.

With about a week to go, we sorted the internal flights and some activities (and food) and and I picked up some last minute necessities (cooler bag, waterproof trousers, thermal socks - it's been a while since my Boy Scout days).

We were booked on the only direct UK - Argentina route (to my knowledge) with BA, which takes off at 21:55 and lands around 07:50 in BsAs. In any case due to working that day and needing the return flight with BA, this was the only option. Not cheap, to start with, I ended up going for World Traveller Plus and used (bought) points to upgrade to Club World (Business, no First Class cabin on this route) on the outward leg.

Checked in at LHR and spent some time in the Galleries lounge which does the job.

The flight itself was long but I was able to sleep well in the bed (10hrs plus!) so it went by pretty quickly. Only let down was being advised that the hot part of the KSML hadn't arrived (apparently this was the case for all BA flights ex LHR that evening). Either way, it was a bit annoying but when I woke up to eat at about 3am, the smoked salmon starter was more than fine. Apparently the executive club will call in due course to work out some points compensation.

Landing and immigration in EZE was uneventful and no one asked to see the customs form that we'd filled out on the plane. My friend was able to buy a sim (~$30) in the airport and we found a taxi from the booth situated outside the main entrance to the Terminal (though there were plenty of car service firms with offices inside).

The cab ride took around 1hr through the rush-hour traffic, the fixed price of $35 had been set by the men in the booth before we got the taxi.

By the time we arrived at the Park Hyatt, it was close to 10am. Even though, I had emailed in advance about early check in, they were fully booked and assured us, that we'd have a room as soon as possible. Nonetheless, they were very accommodating and we were able to use shower facilities in the spa and they gave me use of a conference room to daven.

The rest of the morning was spent going to the travel agent who'd arranged our internal flights and Patagonia activities and picking up food.

I'd ordered food to take to Patagonia in advance from Open Kosher - making good use of Google translate in the process. They'd sent me a list of different meals which they offered from which I selected a few choices. With the help of other customers in the store, I was able communicate who I was and they soon had the order ready. We picked up some packed bread rolls and a few things for the room for Shabbos and went back to the hotel to store the food in the freezer.

By now, we were pretty hungry so on to Luba for lunch. Quite a bit has been written about this place but I just expected a modern, cool cafe. Anyway, yes it's a cool place, but the food is really excellent. As of writing, I'm sure we'll make at least another trip back. I also got a bit carried away ordering various cakes to go.

What was left of Friday afternoon was spent relaxing in the hotel. Again, plenty has been written about the place so I don't need to add. Either way, we had the spa pretty much to ourselves.

We spent Shabbos with Chabad of Recoleta where everyone we spoke to was friendly and welcoming. The Shul has a real 'family' vibe and any hot kiddush lovers out there will love empanadas they serve. For those of you who were worried, there was chulent too...

Shabbos day it rained pretty much throughout so not much chance to walk around the neighbourhood. That said, I always find that being in a place for Shabbos, simply walking around - even to shul a few times - helps one get a more real life 'experience'.

Motzei Shabbos we had a booking in Asian though we really needn't have. We got there late for our 9pm booking and it was still empty. By the time we left at gone 11, it was fairly busy.

Again lots has been written about Asian. I had the sweet bread and tried the Asian rolls followed by a steak with an Indian chutney sauce on the side and passion fruit pie for dessert. They still do the passion fruit vodka shot which was really great.

Sunday morning we had a 7:50 flight from AEP, which is much nearer to the city centre and only about a 20 minute drive from the PH. We were able to leave some of our luggage with the hotel to avoid taking on the internal flights which was useful too.

The flight to FTE wasn't full so we were able to spread out a bit and my friend took the opportunity to create a ghetto lie-flat seat. Seems that El Calafate is a top choice for our brethren at this time of year, certainly didn't expect at least 9 other yidden on the flight.

At both EZE and now at FTE, they scan all your luggage at customs after you've collected it. I now had the Open Kosher meals, some biscuits and candy from home and some baked goods from Luba with me as well as some La Briute meals. The customs lady came over to me after I took my bags from the machine. I can't be entirely sure what she asked I was carrying, in any case I assured her that I wasn't carrying any fruit which was of course the truth.

A taxi from the airport to town is AR$360 and the ride is about 20km. Immediately, you get the feel of how remote the place is (especially if you hadn't been looking out the plane on the way down). The taxi took us to the office of the tour operator where we picked up tickets for the trips before taking us on to the hotel.

We'd booked the Esplendor which is a sort of semi rustic ranch style boutique place. The decor is all new and the rooms are modern with various ranch style features which add 'ambience'.

Shortly after we'd checked in, we were off on the Jeep excursion. This is done in a Land Rover Defender 110 (for all the car buffs).3 seats at behind the driver and 2 sideways bench seats in the rear. Alejandro and Gustavo put some energy in to the ride including livening up the driving to enhance the need for a 4x4.  The ride takes you out of town and to the shores of Lake Argentino. There are  stops at scenic points for pictures and a final stop at a zip wire which added a bit of fun before a refreshment break (half the party unable to partake - I'm not sure El Calafate has yet woken up to the influx of frum travellers - perhaps next year?).

Back to the hotel who kindly heated some of the Open Kosher meals. One Meat medallion and another pastrami - both good. Later, we went to check out the town centre. This is essentially a strip with a variety of mostly tourist trap venues - a casino, outdoor clothing stores and various restaurants and bars. We ended up in bar with a South American theme (surprising) which was part of a sort of Alpine (should that be Andes?) style lodge complex with a few different shops and stalls. Being remote, things aren't cheap here, 2 beers was AR$220.

Back to the hotel after a long day, here You really feel night. Beyond the houses and small network of street lights, it's properly dark but also even considering the amount of people that live here, it's just very quiet.

Monday brought another early start, though thankfully later than the previous day's 5am wake up call. We were down and ready to be picked up for the full day glacier trek at 730. Shortly after we were picked up and got on the minibus with around 20 others. At the national park, we joined another bus were you pay the entry fee AR$330 for foreigners. We then drove on to the shore, where we boarded a boat (by now around 930). The boat ride lasts around 20 mins and offers some great views - by now you can see the glacier. Being winter, not only was it cold, but there was also light rain. We disembarked and were split into English / Spanish groups at the cabins and given instructions before starting the mini trek. To reach the ice, they've erected a network of wooden bridges that take you down to a beach type area where after a short walk you reach huts where you're given crampons. Correctly booted, we started the trek. The walk on the ice lasts around 1.5hrs and actually involved some steep inclines as well as a look at sink holes and obvious lot some great views. The group was a lively mix that added to the experience and kept the guide on his toes - giving instructions in German and mandarin. Whilst on the glacier, it started raining really hard (glacier micro climate) which made it feel all the more authentic rather than just a photo op. The trek was topped off with a whisky served - naturally on the (fresh) rocks - at the glacier 'bar'.

Views were great, and the trek was good fun - I got soaked too despite various layers of waterproofs with varying levels of efficiency.

Back at the cabins, the La Briute meal caused some amusement amongst our various companions with my friend offering others the opportunity to touch this cardboard that was suddenly very hot. Off the glacier, the rain had stopped, and we got some great shots.

At 230pm, the boat took us back to the buses and then we went on to the balconies overlooking the other side of the glacier. More than being just a different side, here we actually got to see large chunks of ice breaking off and crashing to the water and again plenty more great shots although it did rain a bit here too. There are various routes here, and we took about an hour to do the ~1.5km walkway which takes you to the national park restaurant and waiting buses.

Thoroughly exhausted, the bus had us back at the hotel at about 6. Some more of the Open Kosher meals and (Chicken - good, though the beef was even better). Time for another early night. Another flight and another trek to come tomorrow.

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 11:51:17 PM »
Awesome!

Got pictures to share?

I assume you're a UK citizen so you couldn't take advantage of the reciprocity fee waiver?!

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2016, 06:39:31 AM »
Will get some pictures up for sure - on my phone in Patagonia at the moment but I'll see what I can do.

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2016, 08:20:56 AM »


Will get some pictures up for sure - on my phone in Patagonia at the moment but I'll see what I can do.

Yes I'm a UK citizen; no Visa charge for us.
Oh, didn't realize you're still there. Enjoy!

I confused the UK with Canada and Australia that still pay the reciprocity fee.

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2016, 03:06:37 PM »
Nice oh-so-British write up so far! Next time we go back to Argentina we'll have to hit up the south. Sounds like a lot of fun.

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2016, 01:26:45 AM »
Part 2

Starting to write this a mere 48 hours after finishing the previous part though it feels a lot longer. 2 flights and 3 places in between might have something to do with that.

Tuesday morning was a fairly relaxed one. We took a taxi in to town - the main strip - in El Calafate and ended up in a cafe. There was nothing major that we needed to do there though I suppose if we'd really wanted to, we could have gone to the Glacier museum. We eventually made our way back to the hotel to finish packing and took a cab to the airport.

Again, the flight was with Aerolinas Argentina and being a domestic flight from a small airport was an easy affair. I should mention now that we didn't know what the baggage situation was on the internal flights. We'd left some luggage in the PH in Buenos Aires but still each had a full bag and carry on. Seems the official airline policy is 15kg for checked baggage and 5kg for hand baggage (10 if an international flight). My carry-on was always 8-10kg but I was never given hassle about that, however we were both charged for excess weight for each flight. AR$400 each for AEP - FTE and now in FTE the lady at check in was telling us that it would be cheaper for cash... We didn't even think about it until later but I presume that's not 'official policy'. Anyway she asked us for AR$350 for both so we readily paid.

The flight from FTE - USH is short, not much longer than an hour. I woke up about 3/4 in to see some pretty crazy scenery down below and managed to take a few pictures of the snow covered mountains that we were passing. As the plane descends towards Ushuaia, the turbulence gets pretty bad (due to the mountains). As it passes over the city, the plane sweeps sharply over the water below to do what seems like a low 180 and then land. I haven't done so yet but want to have a look to see if anyone has put this landing on YouTube. For me at least, I think I'd enjoy it more as a spectator.

Landing in Ushuaia, again there was a customs inspector looking for fresh produce being brought in. Though here there was just a table for those stopped as opposed to a scanner for everyone. We passed through without being stopped.

Getting outside, being winter it hits immediately. Aside from being cold - it was cold, but not bitter - the roads are covered with that snow/mud/winter slush. Despite my being skeptical of its traction, we got in to the first waiting taxi and headed for the hotel.

We were booked in the Arakur, a large upscale hotel on a hill just outside the main part of town. I was partly inspired to stay here because this was where the Top Gear team had stayed whilst filming in the area. (For those that don't follow British TV shows, Top Gear is/was a huge cult motoring show who were chased out of Patagonia whilst filming last year by angry mobs who weren't happy about the possible reference to The Falklands on the license plates of one of the cars that they were using).

Yes, the Falklands / las Malvinas are quite a big deal here and there were plenty of signs, posters and commercials that I've seen making reference to this. (The Falklands are islands off the Argentine coast that are subject to controversy as they are under British rule. Argentina invaded in 1982, and the U.K. reclaimed them after a short conflict. This has a been a major issue in Argentine politics and foreign policy since.

Back to Arakur, the taxi driver told us on the way up that Leonardo Di Caprio had stayed there recently whilst filming. Well, if it's good enough for Leo.. I just wanted to use the spa.

We checked in at about 4pm and made equities about the night trek that we had booked and were told to be in the lobby at 6 to be picked up. I took an Open Kosher meal to be heated up at the bar and made my way to the spa. There are plenty of amenities at this hotel - games room, indoor pool, gym massages etc but what I really wanted was to use the outdoor hot tubs. They have two outdoor tubs and a pool which you can sit in and swim up to the edge. Here, you look out over the mountains and the whole Bay Area. Thankfully I had the whole outside to myself though this may have been because most people don't want to be in an outdoor pool at nearly freezing temperatures.

When I couldn't feel my head anymore, I headed up, collected my meal and went to eat and prepare for the trek.

Eventually after a short delay, we were picked up by the transport at about 645pm. 2 others were in the van and as we headed out away from town, it became apparent that it would likely just be the four of us. I didn't know much about what we were about to do apart from the fact that it was going to be 'special', would involve dogs (hmm) and a traditional Patagonian meal (awkward).

Still, excited by the prospect of to night trek, we arrived at the base somewhere in the national park. Here, it was explained that we would be doing a variety of activities before the meal and entertainment.

First, we were off on a course through the woods on some serious quad bikes, good fun and actually a good ride even though we didn't get that fast. Again for motoring geeks, I think they set up the steering very stiff for snow so you actually have to steer hard to avoid trees, ditches etc.

Next up, were the dogs. We got into the sled (is that what it's called?) and a man takes the reins standing behind. We started on a different route through the trees, though by now it wasn't just cold but snowing too. Despite having reservations about this bit, hurtling around a corner, sitting unfastened to a piece of wood, being pulled by a pack of dogs, in almost pitch darkness and in the snow - was actually a pretty cool experience!

We then ended up going for thr mini trek, walking in to the woods. For this we were wearing rackets on our shoes - I will have to find a Google image for those that don't know. Either way, they make sense but we didn't need them for this walk which wasn't particularly long but a good photo op.

Finally we were welcomed into a teepee and introduced to the entertainment - two men and their sons singing with a guitar, and a few jokes. They were very apologetic that they hadn't been alerted to our dietary requirements though I told them it was really fine and accepted the offer of a cold coke. I had a LaBriute meal with me which I might have opened if there were 20 of us, but not 4.

The next (2?) hours were spent listening to jokes (in Spanish), renditions of some English (and Spanish) 'classics' and watching the others eat some enormous steaks whilst sitting around a roaring fire.

Overall, it was a fun experience but more of a cute / couples experience than something like the mini trek that we'd done previously.

We bought the photo CD (obviously!) AR$300 and came back tired, cold and smelling very strongly of bonfire.

The next morning we resolved to make the most of it, seeing as we were traveling back to Buenos Aires later in the day. We left early but not super early with the (partial) intent of getting on the so-called end of the world train in the national park. As it turned out, they were insistent on us checking out before leaving and we'd have probably missed the train anyway. We arranged a price - AR$1400 -with the taxi to take us around the national park and straight on to the airport, therefore avoiding the need to go back to the hotel - 20-30 mins in the other direction.

The national park had some really great views and there were plenty of places to stop and take advantage of the 'panorama'. The scenes were actually quite special and there was a rainbow over the water at one point.

Driving around Ushuaia, was interesting in itself for me (this  sort of thing interests me). It's clearly benefited a lot in the general industry that tourism has brought to the area and looks like the wider economy is feeding from this too. Building work is happening, the port seemed pretty active and plenty of nice cars around.

On to the airport and with more (new) excess baggage fees, precisely AR$331 each this time, we headed back to BsAs.

The flight took off ahead of time and was quicker than scheduled too and without any real turbulence which was a bonus. We landed about 5:30pm and having got our luggage, headed for the Four Seasons.

I plan to do a more detailed of the hotel as I haven't seen anything much on here about it yet but I'll wait until I've experienced more before doing so. So far, first impressions are good - nice building, younger vibe than the PH and attentive staff.

This evening we went to Al Galope which was pretty much as expected based on various reviews here. We shared the 1/2 mixed grill which was plenty for us though I think I'd stick to steak / Asado ribs if going back. We finished up the evening with a few drinks, staying here helps get one into the hotel bar which is quite popular though the Port area seems cool but (understandably) was quiet for a Wednesday evening.

(I will get some pictures up eventually).

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2016, 09:00:08 AM »
Great report. Would love to see pics.

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2016, 06:58:58 PM »
Final installment here, as I'm about to leave BsAs.

Thursday was our main day for touring in the city. The concierge at the hotel helped to point out the main places of interest and show a reasonable route to take. We started off (admittedly not too early) with a cab to La Boca. We arrived a little cautiously, having been warned by the hotel not to veer off the main few roads. As it happened, we were there as the street market scene was just opening. The vendors were setting out their wares and the hawkers (quite literally) getting into the swing of things. There were all sorts of interesting things and people around us even though it was essentially empty and a there was a noticeably large police presence. We walked around the main tourist streets and got some great photos of the houses, shops and goings on around us. Stepping in to a few of the shops and cafes was interesting in itself though we came away without buying any bootleg football shirts / dodgy trilbies etc. We hadn't ventured out the main tourist areas but got enough of a taste looking down the streets further into the neighborhood.

Next we took a cab to St. Elmo and the Plaza Dorrigo. Building works were taking place in the actual square but the main thoroughfare is pleasant to walk though so we carried on as planned to the Plaza de Mayo.

Not going to be very informative in this bit: This square has the main government buildings and palace(s?). Very nice. We carried on towards the tall spire where there was some sort of protest taking place.

We caught a cab to the mall where the kosher McDonalds is. Again, various other reports of this on here and elsewhere and it's worth visiting for novelty alone. I think this is the only glatt McDonalds in the world, certainly the only kosher one outside of Israel. A note - there are at least 3 others in the mall, this one has a big 'KOSHER' underneath the logo. We ordered Big Macs and nuggets. In short, the fries are probably the best bit. 

Afternoon was quiet, and headed to Luba in the evening for another great meal.

Friday was another quiet day - we were enjoying the hotel and a chance to relax. This was meant to be the chilled part of the holiday. My friend went horse riding which was a full day 9-4pm activity and apparently excellent and went well beyond anything they'd usually teach you to do in Europe. I walked around some of the places we didn't see yet in town in Retiro, the center and headed to Once - the main Jewish area which was interesting to see, check out the stores bakeries etc. I also got some excellent ice cream / sorbet from Freddo - of which there are loads in the city.

Shabbos was again very pleasant, being hosted by the Rabbi at Chabad Recoleta as well as our hosts from the previous week.

Motzei Shabbos we went again to Asian where we asked them not to hang around as we didn't want to have a leisurely meal and they were obliging. The pastrami bruschetta was excellent followed by the 1.5kg 'beef bone rib' steak which was, well, big. I never intended to get anywhere near finishing but everyone asks about the meat in Argentina so at lest I now have a picture of a huge steak to show them (which cost about the same as a 350g back home).

Sunday morning we checked out the hotel and headed home. Upgrades to business were $800 which whilst being reasonable was more than I wanted to spend, so I stayed in premium and didn't get much sleep but the flight itself was ok (as ok as a 13+ hour flight in an upright chair can be).

In conclusion - it was a great vacation with possibly a perfect mix of relaxation and activity and would thoroughly recommend though perhaps ideally for a 'proper' vacation in slightly warmer weather.

Hotels - The PH was excellent, and the property outstanding. Better than the Four Seasons which was 'just' very good. In Ushuaia, the Arakur is a fabulous place though with just one night, we didn't really take advantage of the facilities. The Esplendor was great value and perfectly decent for well below $100/night.

Food - People always ask about the food, especially here. In general it was good, if not spectacular. Stand out would be Luba which is comparable or better than any milky place in London (and priced to match, which it's worth).

Activities -

The jeep ride in Calafate was a bit of fun and something to do for half a day. It was on private roads and we wouldn't have been able to get to those views any other way and the zip wire was a cute novelty touch. $80 per person

The glacier mini trek is a must do. It was a full day and great fun and very well planned. $180 per person plus AR$330 pp national park entry

The night hike / Husky dog thing was fun, because we made the best of it. For anyone not fully appreciating the Spanish musical entertainment and Patagonian stew / freshly grilled steaks, it's a bit lacking though. $160 per person

Ushuaia national park tour - this we sort of did ourselves but it was a feasible alternative to the End of World train (which would have been AR$600 each) so I'll include it. Great views and we toured at our leisure. AR$1400 (included about 4 hours door to door including hotel pick up and airport drop off).

Hopefully now some pictures to follow.




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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2016, 07:15:45 PM »
Why did you decide to spend an extra weekend in BsAs as opposed to flying back home Thursday night? Seems like despite the fact that it was relaxing, you didn't do that much. Would you have planned differently in retrospect?

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2016, 04:28:18 AM »
Why did you decide to spend an extra weekend in BsAs as opposed to flying back home Thursday night? Seems like despite the fact that it was relaxing, you didn't do that much. Would you have planned differently in retrospect?

Partly it was supposed to be a relaxing few days at the end of the holiday, had we left on Thurs it would have meant spending time on a plane for (at least some of) 6 days out of 8! Also, any flight we would have taken would have been early afternoon to get home for Shabbos which would have meant leaving the hotel on Thurs morning and essentially we wouldn't have spent much time at all in BsAs. Certainly for someone looking to pack everything in / on a tighter schedule though, it could have been done.

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2016, 02:49:55 PM »
Great! Thanks again for a nice TR.

- By St. Elmo I believe you meant San Telmo?
- How did you get to $180 PP for the Mini Trekking? It seems that they went up to 2,100ARS (I guess that's due to the elimination of the blue dollar) which shouldn't be more than $140-150. Glad we got to do it last year for $95 PP.

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2016, 04:26:30 AM »
Great! Thanks again for a nice TR.

- By St. Elmo I believe you meant San Telmo?
- How did you get to $180 PP for the Mini Trekking? It seems that they went up to 2,100ARS (I guess that's due to the elimination of the blue dollar) which shouldn't be more than $140-150. Glad we got to do it last year for $95 PP.
-That's exactly what I meant - tiredness talking there.
-That's what we paid a travel agent, so could be his fee on top or a price rise plus the elimination of the blue dollar.

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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2016, 03:06:33 AM »
seems like a wonderful trip. just out of curiosity, why would you travel 13 hours to cold south America, rather than say Spain where you originally intended to go?
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Re: Argentina - Buenos Aires, El Calafate & Ushuaia
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2016, 04:24:55 AM »
seems like a wonderful trip. just out of curiosity, why would you travel 13 hours to cold south America, rather than say Spain where you originally intended to go?
In hindsight, a little warmer would have been nice but I'm not the type that needs hot weather / into beach holidays so that wasn't an issue. I've been to Spain plenty of times and I'm sure I'll go again. I don't have much holiday (left) to use so wanted to make it worth it in terms of time spent travelling. Also, I'm a single guy... when I'm married and iyH have a family, I'm sure there will be plenty of time for villa holidays!

Perhaps I should look for some winter sun though - after last Dec in LA/Vegas and the one before in NYC...