Author Topic: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic  (Read 33287 times)

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #75 on: September 02, 2016, 10:07:45 AM »
Wrong. Pickles and cucumbers have different tastes so you liking it or not has to do with a distinct difference. On the other hand, disliking a yellow squash and liking green squash, although they taste exactly the same would be discrimination.

A) Look up the word discrimination. Both examples are clear discrimination.

B) Let's turn it around.
Yellow and green squash, despite tasting the same, have a distinct difference that they don't look the same and aren't even blood relatives. Cucumbers and pickles are literally both green cucumbers, despite tasting differently.

As you can tell the original statement lends itself to all sorts of arbitrary views of what's considered different and the same.
It sounds nice to quote but it doesn't pass the smell test. The difference between racial discrimination and other forms of discrimination is that as a society we determined that racial discrimination is illegal (because we felt it's more unfair) and others not necessarily so.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #76 on: September 02, 2016, 10:08:44 AM »
Intelligence is discriminating between different things.
Racism is discriminating between like things.
Isn't Bechira only truly applicable between 2 like things?
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #77 on: September 02, 2016, 10:09:50 AM »
Isn't Bechira only truly applicable between 2 like things?
Externally or internally?
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #78 on: September 02, 2016, 12:06:04 PM »
Although there are multiple conversations happening on this thread, I think most people are able to understand them. Yet, the mods have not yet made a distinction and turned this into a "Thank G-d who gave the chicken discrimination" thread.

It started here, btw. http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13937.msg1548467#msg1548467

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Re: Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #79 on: September 02, 2016, 12:12:48 PM »
Isn't Bechira only truly applicable between 2 like things?
Not everyone on this forum learns Chassidus...
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #80 on: September 02, 2016, 12:42:43 PM »
Interesting choice to split off the thread beginning from the original article about the return policies... Personally, I would have left that part in "interesting articles" where it actually belongs and then turned my havanah/havchana chakira into its own thread, but I am biased of course and I totally get the mod's decision.

Anyway, sorry to violate forum rules by discussing moderation decisions but, as a case in point, I think this is an excellent illustration of havchanah. The mod (whoever it was) used havchana to divide the thread off at this spot and not at another.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #81 on: September 04, 2016, 02:41:54 AM »
Yeah, I was a little surprised to see a thread started by me about return policies, or discrimination or havchana. I just thought it was an interesting article.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2016, 05:42:45 PM »
http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2016/09/online_stores_return_policy_denies_cash_refunds_to.html
I had never heard of this store now its name is making headlines.

Who wants to open up an online store website with a big disclaimer that we dont sell to black people? I guarantee its success from all the free advertising.
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2016, 06:03:05 PM »
I had never heard of this store now its name is making headlines.

Who wants to open up an online store website with a big disclaimer that we dont sell to black people? I guarantee its success from all the free advertising.
Lol, just say no returns to cities with heavy black populations.
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2016, 06:26:42 PM »
Why isn't anyone talking about the return abuse coming from these neighbourhoods? Isn't the the real story? Do people living in Lake wood who know the true extent of this abuse really believe that this policy is due to some type of discrimination?

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2016, 06:59:48 PM »
Why isn't anyone talking about the return abuse coming from these neighbourhoods? Isn't the the real story?
Because most people here could never understand to what extent it's happening & how its choking these small stores.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 07:04:44 PM by TimT »

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2016, 07:34:04 PM »
Because most people here could never understand to what extent it's happening & how its choking these small stores.
Most people think im just one person returning something to an online company out of many many returns. I work for an eCommerce company for almost 7 years and the black guys in the warehouse/returns all know what lakewood,brooklyn,monsey is

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #88 on: September 06, 2016, 07:41:36 PM »
What abuse are you talking about? Unless these are truly the only neighborhoods where people make returns? Not everything I buy works out, that's why return policies exist
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #89 on: September 06, 2016, 07:53:12 PM »
Most stores like Zara, Gap etc. have explicitly free returns. It's why the husbands suffer when the wives can't stop buying "because I can always return."