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Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #240 on: September 08, 2016, 08:13:43 AM »
He said that if a customer wrongly filed a dispute, he's not liable to pay the the loss he caused?

Sorry I was talking about a ligit case. I had my wife buy all the kids Yom Tov outfits, on the Amex. And then, one outfit we decide not to keep. Never worn, besides for trying on.

Long story short at the end of the day Amex screwed me, because when I filed the claim I did not actually first try to return the item. Instead I relied on the fact that the store had a one day return policy. They would not let me resubmit my claim.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #241 on: September 08, 2016, 08:50:04 AM »
Wow so now 95% of Brooklyn, Lakewood, etc. is lying thieves.
News to me.
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #242 on: September 08, 2016, 02:06:03 PM »
Filing a charge back with Amex causes a direct loss to the seller.  Unless the item is damaged or you were frauded in some way it's 100%stealing.  You can't just not pay because you don't like the policy which you were aware of before you bought.  Making a charge back=not paying.  Amex takes the money directly from the seller and you are keeping the item

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #243 on: September 08, 2016, 02:11:40 PM »
Filing a charge back with Amex causes a direct loss to the seller.  Unless the item is damaged or you were frauded in some way it's 100%stealing.  You can't just not pay because you don't like the policy which you were aware of before you bought.  Making a charge back=not paying.  Amex takes the money directly from the seller and you are keeping the item
you can't just file a charge back and they automatically lose the $. Amex gives the seller a chance to respond.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #244 on: September 08, 2016, 02:17:50 PM »
Sorry I was talking about a ligit case. I had my wife buy all the kids Yom Tov outfits, on the Amex. And then, one outfit we decide not to keep. Never worn, besides for trying on.

Long story short at the end of the day Amex screwed me, because when I filed the claim I did not actually first try to return the item. Instead I relied on the fact that the store had a one day return policy. They would not let me resubmit my claim.
Amex has a great return protection policy, if the store won't take it back within 90 days Amex will reimburse. I never had any issues using it. It's not a charge back and the store doesn't get charged when you use it.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #245 on: September 08, 2016, 02:18:49 PM »
you can't just file a charge back and they automatically lose the $. Amex gives the seller a chance to respond.
Unless the seller really knows what he is doing they will loose. In order to win you need to use a 3rd party company and thats expensive.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #246 on: September 08, 2016, 02:30:59 PM »
Unless the seller really knows what he is doing they will loose. In order to win you need to use a 3rd party company and thats expensive.

when did you make up this fact? I have won disputes as the seller with the correct documentation.

another note. when doing return protection the merchant does not lose out and you dont need a dispute. Consider doing that when a return policy isnt long enough for you.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #247 on: September 08, 2016, 02:33:00 PM »
when did you make up this fact? I have won disputes as the seller with the correct documentation.

another note. when doing return protection the merchant does not lose out and you dont need a dispute. Consider doing that when a return policy isnt long enough for you.
exactly why would anyone accept Amex cards if they have no shot at winning a dispute.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #248 on: September 08, 2016, 02:34:39 PM »
when did you make up this fact? I have won disputes as the seller with the correct documentation.

another note. when doing return protection the merchant does not lose out and you dont need a dispute. Consider doing that when a return policy isnt long enough for you.
I went a little over board but you will loose many times.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #249 on: September 08, 2016, 02:37:52 PM »
exactly why would anyone accept Amex cards if they have no shot at winning a dispute.
You should not be getting that many disputes
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #250 on: September 08, 2016, 02:44:13 PM »
I went a little over board but you will loose many times.

yes they do tend to agree with the seller

You should not be getting that many disbutes

agreed. these should be far and few in between. if not, you have other issues.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #251 on: September 08, 2016, 03:02:15 PM »
Unless the seller really knows what he is doing they will loose. In order to win you need to use a 3rd party company and thats expensive.
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #252 on: September 08, 2016, 03:07:15 PM »
Filing a charge back with Amex causes a direct loss to the seller.  Unless the item is damaged or you were frauded in some way it's 100%stealing.  You can't just not pay because you don't like the policy which you were aware of before you bought.  Making a charge back=not paying.  Amex takes the money directly from the seller and you are keeping the item
The discussion at hand was return protection, not a dispute.

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #254 on: September 12, 2016, 07:20:16 AM »
http://nypost.com/2016/09/11/kids-boutique-accused-of-discrimination-over-limited-return-policy/

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #255 on: September 12, 2016, 07:59:20 AM »
http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-kids-clothing-store-defends-anti-haredi-return-policy/
Note how the condition of the returns was only mentioned in passing. It seems her main issue was ability to maintain inventory.
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #256 on: September 12, 2016, 08:17:13 AM »
Well if she only gives 7 days for returns and only takes back items that are in good shape. She should be able to give refunds to everyone and maintain her inventory

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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #257 on: September 12, 2016, 12:24:11 PM »
Note how the condition of the returns was only mentioned in passing. It seems her main issue was ability to maintain inventory.

Yep, besides the fact that the return policy doesn't cover used or late returns but she still says that as the reason.

"Those customers would place large orders and return all, or nearly all of the items they had purchased, often in poor condition, and only after a substantial delay."
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #258 on: September 12, 2016, 12:26:42 PM »
Well if she only gives 7 days for returns and only takes back items that are in good shape. She should be able to give refunds to everyone and maintain her inventory

No doubt there are inconsistencies with her story, which is why I am not quick to believe her smear campaign.
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Re: Store Won't Take Returns From Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, Monroe or Passaic
« Reply #259 on: September 12, 2016, 12:33:31 PM »
Well if she only gives 7 days for returns and only takes back items that are in good shape. She should be able to give refunds to everyone and maintain her inventory
She got screwed by the Jews so she just doesn't want to deal with them. Im guessing. Who can blame her.

And if you are a small shop if 30 people from lkwd order 15 items each the week before Peasch.....
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