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Bogo walks in a room and announces that we're almost at the end, so double your money now* before it's too late! He claims there are people vouching for him, but they have never heard of him.
ExGingi talked to Bogo for a minute and let's everyone know that he knows what he's doing. Except maybe that was for another Bogo thing he's doing that may or may not MLM related. Or something like that.
Baruch won't stop calling Bogo a liar and ExGingi a fool and a liar. He's gone over to everyone and tells them this at least dozen times.
Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. It's parve, exactly how ExGingi likes it. JJ didn't tell Freddie he was in the room as he doesn't like parve cholent or MLMs. This makes him a shvantz.
Dan is waiting for a juicy voicemail or at least an email to put in this thread. Dan loves Lakewood and was very impressed with it. Dan hates Lakewood and bashes at every opportunity {{Citation needed}}

JJ finally did teshuva. It remains to be seen if others mentioned on this thread will follow his lead.

*as long as you're from Lakewood.
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2016, 12:17:34 AM »
I have no clue about what's going on tomorrow. I do know about BOGO loyalty.
Tomorrow is when the magic happens. Anyone stupid enough to send thousands into the blogosphere will be lucky enough to be the recipient of a promise to double the money.  In reality though, they will simply lose everything.

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2016, 12:18:30 AM »
I know absolutely nothing about sungames, but in this specific case I would suggest a simple solution: ask your school if they will accept/endorse this. If they say yes, so essentially they are saying that by paying $1,000 to this campaign they will take $2,000 off your tuition bill.
The schools don't know anything about this. How could they promise that if I donate half my tuition bill to BOGO then they won't charge me any tuition this year?

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2016, 12:19:07 AM »
I know absolutely nothing about sungames, but in this specific case I would suggest a simple solution: ask your school if they will accept/endorse this. If they say yes, so essentially they are saying that by paying $1,000 to this campaign they will take $2,000 off your tuition bill.
Is there a list of participating schools?

And btw, many yeshivas "participated" in sungames. It didn't help anyone anything. The yeshivas lost out,  and the people who gave money lost out.

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2016, 12:20:03 AM »
I know absolutely nothing about sungames, but in this specific case I would suggest a simple solution: ask your school if they will accept/endorse this. If they say yes, so essentially they are saying that by paying $1,000 to this campaign they will take $2,000 off your tuition bill.
No school has or will endorse it. A few poor souls may lose money.
 I doubt anyone will send money . But judging by how Zvi managed to sell you the Brooklyn bridge... He may be real good on the phone...

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2016, 12:23:48 AM »
Quit while you're ahead.
 I don't know your relationship with zvi, but I do know that you are sophisticated enough to know that promising %100+ returns, to people struggling to pay tuition, under the guise of "chessed" is despicable.
As I said earlier. I am familiar with the BOGO loyalty program and see potential in it. I spent some time with Zvi over it a couple of weeks ago and haven't heard back from him since.

I don't know what he's planning with this matching funds campaign, this is not something he ever shared with me, and I won't speculate about it. However, I think my suggestion above is valid: If your school will accept it that way, what can you lose? If they won't, call BOGO loyalty (he's giving an address and phone number IIANM) and challenge him.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2016, 12:26:12 AM »
No school has or will endorse it. A few poor souls may lose money.
 I doubt anyone will send money . But judging by how Zvi managed to sell you the Brooklyn bridge... He may be real good on the phone...
I actually met him in person.

Check before you post. I am not saying that any school has or will endorse this, but will it hurt to ask. Zvi claimed to have a close relationship with the Lakewood Cheder.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2016, 12:30:58 AM »
I actually met him in person..
Ahh, that changes everything. This seems legit. Where can I send my money?

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2016, 12:32:07 AM »
I am not saying that any school has or will endorse this, but will it hurt to ask. Zvi claimed to have a close relationship with the Lakewood Cheder.
Didn't he burn them last time around?

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2016, 12:34:02 AM »
Didn't he burn them last time around?
Hence the 'close' relationship.... :o

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2016, 12:34:24 AM »
I actually met him in person.
That was understood. He said that if he sold you the brklyn bridge in person, he must be very good over the phone as well.

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2016, 12:38:04 AM »
I actually met him in person.

Check before you post. I am not saying that any school has or will endorse this, but will it hurt to ask. Zvi claimed to have a close relationship with the Lakewood Cheder.
Whether or not he manages to con a school admin by promising/giving them a stack of cash is irrelevant. Even if this happens it won't legitimize him.

Scamming a mossad is arguably worse than just scamming struggling parents.


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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2016, 12:40:21 AM »
does anyone know first hand what this is all about or is everyone just speculating what this might be?
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2016, 12:42:36 AM »
does anyone know first hand what this is all about or is everyone just speculating what this might be?
I was just told by someone I know that his brother who is very involved with the cheder (who you and I know) just asked Rabbi Posen about it and he knows nothing.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2016, 12:44:56 AM »
I was just told by someone I know that his brother who is very involved with the cheder (who you and I know) just asked Rabbi Posen about it and he knows nothing.
im not trying to defend I'm just saying that no one here knows what this is about...may well be a scam but I haven't heard any first hand info as to what this is about..
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2016, 12:46:06 AM »
im not trying to defend I'm just saying that no one here knows what this is about...may well be a scam but I haven't heard any first hand info about what this is about..
There in lies the issue and especially if Rabbi Posen from the cheder knows nothing about it
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.