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Bogo walks in a room and announces that we're almost at the end, so double your money now* before it's too late! He claims there are people vouching for him, but they have never heard of him.
ExGingi talked to Bogo for a minute and let's everyone know that he knows what he's doing. Except maybe that was for another Bogo thing he's doing that may or may not MLM related. Or something like that.
Baruch won't stop calling Bogo a liar and ExGingi a fool and a liar. He's gone over to everyone and tells them this at least dozen times.
Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. It's parve, exactly how ExGingi likes it. JJ didn't tell Freddie he was in the room as he doesn't like parve cholent or MLMs. This makes him a shvantz.
Dan is waiting for a juicy voicemail or at least an email to put in this thread. Dan loves Lakewood and was very impressed with it. Dan hates Lakewood and bashes at every opportunity {{Citation needed}}

JJ finally did teshuva. It remains to be seen if others mentioned on this thread will follow his lead.

*as long as you're from Lakewood.
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BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #80 on: September 04, 2016, 10:44:23 AM »


Thread will liven up in a later in the year as the scam unfolds...

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #81 on: September 04, 2016, 10:46:03 AM »
Click bate ?

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2016, 10:46:56 AM »
Click bate ?
Title accuratly reflects the discussion

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2016, 10:47:51 AM »
On a seprate note regarding tuition, check out this google doc that's been going around face book. Free for all to edit tuition info for all day schools.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jJF9icyyd5jMqY-pm06QbJqqAKXe0b9X-1-DOzbo4yk/edit?usp=drive_web

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2016, 10:48:52 AM »
Title accuratly reflects the discussion
But anyone reading that expects to get more info when opening the thread.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #86 on: September 04, 2016, 10:52:24 AM »
But anyone reading that expects to get more info when opening the thread.
hopefully the mods will merge in the discussion from the Lakewood thread.
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #87 on: September 04, 2016, 10:53:49 AM »


At this point, I am reporting them to youcaring. If you go here https://www.youcaring.com/familes-struggling-to-pay-tuition-631784 under about the organizer there's an option to 'Report fundraiser'. If enough people report him maybe they will shut it down.
thanks for pointing that out, I just reported them.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #88 on: September 04, 2016, 10:58:35 AM »
"
Someone who has Facebook can post that they spoke to me.

They can post the following


"I have been contacted by Rabonim, Friends and askonim.  I have no relationship whatsoever to this BOGO fund and neither do I know anything about it.  I am in no way behind it or funding it. 

People should do research and verify who this person is and what the supposed fund or organization truly is. 

Sincerely
Tzvi Bogomilsky
Miami Beach,FL"


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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2016, 11:01:39 AM »
thanks for pointing that out, I just reported them.
me too
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2016, 11:02:16 AM »
I just called a large schools administrator. He said that he did once meet with Bogo who had a crazy plan where stores will give a 10% loyalty discount (effectively wiping out their profits?). If I get 10 people to sign up I share in their discount and then they get 10 people to sign up and they share in those discount etc etc mlm mlm mlm.

He had not been told that his school would be listed here and he knew nothing about this tuition BOGO thing. He was upset to hear that the website implies that he is affiliated.

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM

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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2016, 11:04:11 AM »
I actually met him in person.

Check before you post. I am not saying that any school has or will endorse this, but will it hurt to ask. Zvi claimed to have a close relationship with the Lakewood Cheder.
How close is his relationship?
http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2016/09/audio-in-response-to-numerous-inquiries-about-this-tuition-bogo.html

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2016, 11:04:56 AM »
"
Someone who has Facebook can post that they spoke to me.

They can post the following


"I have been contacted by Rabonim, Friends and askonim.  I have no relationship whatsoever to this BOGO fund and neither do I know anything about it.  I am in no way behind it or funding it. 

People should do research and verify who this person is and what the supposed fund or organization truly is. 

Sincerely
Tzvi Bogomilsky
Miami Beach,FL"
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #94 on: September 04, 2016, 11:18:14 AM »
Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate number of scams originating in Lakewood versus other Jewish communities?

Am I incorrect?
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #95 on: September 04, 2016, 11:21:51 AM »
Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate number of scams originating in Lakewood versus other Jewish communities?

Am I incorrect?
They are not necessarily originating, but many in Lakewood are falling victim. The only one of these which may have originated in Lakewood is the CC farms. Ambit, Sungames, Viridian, My Harvest America, and this are not lakewood based.

BTW, Please move into here the conversation from the Lakewood thread starting here
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16578.msg1549750#msg1549750
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #96 on: September 04, 2016, 11:24:01 AM »
Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate number of scams originating in Lakewood versus other Jewish communities?

Am I incorrect?
This actually sounds like a non Lakewooder (chabadskers!?) preying on poor Lakewood people

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #97 on: September 04, 2016, 11:24:47 AM »
Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate number of scams originating in Lakewood versus other Jewish communities?

Am I incorrect?
They are the easiest community (and most desperate) to suck into a scam.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #98 on: September 04, 2016, 11:34:07 AM »
As for Ambit, by his admission he did introduce and promote it in Lakewood. I don't think anything was done with malice. Anyone that understand how markets and math works, should have seen that something had to explode there. He claims to have learned his lesson from that and came up with an idea that IMHO does have merit (I never said that about Ambit, and I actually think there are strong reasons why retail energy SHOULD be regulated).

However, even the best most legitimate business concept could fail. I hope he does succeed (he is a Yid and definitely has good intentions) though as said above, if he gets introduced to the community through what looks like a half baked good idea, he might simply be shooting himself in the leg.
Very confidence inspiring. I introduced a bad product to Lakewood and profited off of them losing thousands of dollars, but now I learnde my lesson so trust me now with millions. Why? Be cause I say I learned my lesson. How do we know that the poor business accumen has improved? He says so!

BTW, regarding energy deregulation regarding residential in NY it can definitely use more regulation. As someone deeply involved in that industry I recommend against NY residential customers enrolling with ESCOs. Larger accounts stand to gain much if done properly even in NY. In NJ and many other states it is even simpler. I have saved companies millions of dollars through deregulated energy, but it needs to be done right. Unfortunately most in the business are unequipped to do it right. MLMs like Ambit where the entire model is to have those with no knowledge of the industry sell the product to the most ignorangt customers are a sure recipe for disaster.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #99 on: September 04, 2016, 11:35:17 AM »
Why does it seem like there is a disproportionate number of scams originating in Lakewood versus other Jewish communities?

Am I incorrect?

It's difficult to scam people in your own hometown. Must easier to deal in a town that you can walk out of and nobody knows you. Therefore, the town with the least homegrown scammers will have the most scammers coming to take advantage of them. Lakewood natives are innocent, pure, and unsullied; and would never dream of doing something a mite bit unkosher. They always believe the best of everyone. They are therefore open targets to evil out of towners, whom everyone knows will say or do anything to make a quick crooked buck. In a town where everyone has a scammer mindset, it's much more difficult to get away with one. That's why you'll rarely hear of a scheme originating in; say; Cleveland.

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