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Bogo walks in a room and announces that we're almost at the end, so double your money now* before it's too late! He claims there are people vouching for him, but they have never heard of him.
ExGingi talked to Bogo for a minute and let's everyone know that he knows what he's doing. Except maybe that was for another Bogo thing he's doing that may or may not MLM related. Or something like that.
Baruch won't stop calling Bogo a liar and ExGingi a fool and a liar. He's gone over to everyone and tells them this at least dozen times.
Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. It's parve, exactly how ExGingi likes it. JJ didn't tell Freddie he was in the room as he doesn't like parve cholent or MLMs. This makes him a shvantz.
Dan is waiting for a juicy voicemail or at least an email to put in this thread. Dan loves Lakewood and was very impressed with it. Dan hates Lakewood and bashes at every opportunity {{Citation needed}}

JJ finally did teshuva. It remains to be seen if others mentioned on this thread will follow his lead.

*as long as you're from Lakewood.
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Author Topic: BOGO Tuition Scam  (Read 158186 times)

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #140 on: September 04, 2016, 03:20:27 PM »
Wow, that's a real scientific analysis. I wonder how many people of the 99.99999% from Lakewood put money into this. I did not put into this any money, and rather than go out with name calling and statements, gave a clear statement of facts, and a suggestion of what to verify before putting any money into this.
@ExGingi is a fool

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #141 on: September 04, 2016, 03:20:46 PM »
I am surprised you even responded to the wrong math.

Obviously many people here shoot their emotions out of their hip, without thinking too much.

I am not here to defend my smarts, or BOGO. I am just offering a cool headed and somewhat informed approach.

I have absolutely $0 invested in BOGO loyalty (other than some time spent hearing him out), I don't see it as a scam, though I don't know if it will or will not work. As I have stated before, the "tuition match" being offered now could actually hurt BOGO loyalty by tarnishing its reputation before it even got started.
@ExGingi is a fool

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #142 on: September 04, 2016, 03:21:05 PM »
As I said, I was introduced by a mutual friend who asked me to evaluate the merit of investing in BOGO loyalty for someone else, I have no direct friendship or relationship.
Prove what wrong? Where did I state that you were wrong?
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #143 on: September 04, 2016, 03:25:10 PM »
@ExGingi is a fool

@ExGingi is a fool

@ExGingi is a fool
This is getting inappropriately personal. On RC Elul, none the less.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
JTZ

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #144 on: September 04, 2016, 03:26:35 PM »
This is getting inappropriately personal. On RC Elul, none the less.
I know too many people who lost their pants from scams.
I have zero tolerance for naive people buying into scams.

Even more so when they can't explain how it's not a scam. Just that they met him, and he had interesting ideas.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #145 on: September 04, 2016, 03:28:51 PM »
On youcaring

Posted on September 4, 2016 by Zvi Bogomilsky
For all the peddlers of Lashon Harah:

All funds that are given today are under the direct control of Zecharia Waxler, Partner - Roth & Company, and Dayan Roth of Lakewood.

Who are these people, anyone contacted them?
I think Wexler is the my harvest America guy

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #146 on: September 04, 2016, 03:33:46 PM »
I know too many people who lost their pants from scams.
Should we say that you then know a lot of "fools"?
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #147 on: September 04, 2016, 03:34:03 PM »
Who is dayan Roth of Lakewood?

For that matter, who is this Zvi guy? Where does he live and which community is he affiliated with?

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #148 on: September 04, 2016, 03:36:28 PM »
Who is dayan Roth of Lakewood?

For that matter, who is this Zvi guy? Where does he live and which community is he affiliated with?
Probably R chaim Meyer Roth

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #149 on: September 04, 2016, 03:37:27 PM »
This is getting inappropriately personal. On RC Elul, none the less.
On RE Elul it's more important to publicize scam artists and anything associated with them.

Every MLM is rooted in scam.

This is a scam

MHA was a scam. Scambit is a scam. Sungames is a scam.

Wachsler and Bogomilsky and their ilk should be chased out of town.

This scam  might be exposed today or might take 5 years buy such things are scams.

Shame on the people that are dancing around and not calling it what it is.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #150 on: September 04, 2016, 03:39:41 PM »
On RE Elul it's more important to publicize scam artists and anything associated with them.

Every MLM is rooted in scam.

This is a scam

MHA was a scam. Scambit is a scam. Sungames is a scam.

Wachsler and Bogomilsky and their ilk should be chased out of town.

This scam  might be exposed today or might take 5 years buy such things are scams.

Shame on the people that are dancing around and not calling it what it is.

There is a difference between saying this is a scam and saying you are a fool.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #151 on: September 04, 2016, 03:42:28 PM »
Should we say that you then know a lot of "fools"?
yes

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #152 on: September 04, 2016, 03:48:32 PM »
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #153 on: September 04, 2016, 03:49:46 PM »
Can someone (ExGingi or someone else) please tell me what BOGO Loyalty is and what their business (or lack thereof) model is?
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #154 on: September 04, 2016, 03:53:23 PM »
Please be advised i have been called by many rabonim and askonim in Lakewood. I have no affiliation whatsoever with this tuition fund.

People need to ask if they are donating why it's not affiliated with a charity. To me it seems like a very clever scam.

Sincerely
Tzvi Bogomilsky
Miami Beach,FL.


Someone Sara Bogimilsky posted this on the page.

Anyway is there anything to lose by using a CC?
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #155 on: September 04, 2016, 03:58:55 PM »
LA?
Crown Heights?

Why is it always Lakewood?
Very concentrated mass of younger families,  many of whom don't have a 'normal' income, but do have many expenses,  and where the culture is that there are loopholes that can be taken advantage of (legitimately and legally) to their financial betterment. 
In that mindset it doesn't matter much if the loophole is offered by uncle Sam,  or the great state of NJ,  or 7-11 on July 11th. All these supposedly fall into that category as well.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #156 on: September 04, 2016, 04:00:26 PM »
Matzav removed the scam article and replaced with this

http://matzav.com/head-of-bogo-tuition-fund-speaks-to-matzav/

Turns out tzvi just wants to donate a million dollars to Lakewood mosdos # smh

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #157 on: September 04, 2016, 04:05:25 PM »
Why would the fund accountant have custody of the funds? Highly inappropriate

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #158 on: September 04, 2016, 04:10:43 PM »
Why do they need to pay over 12 months? Should give a check on the spot

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #159 on: September 04, 2016, 04:16:06 PM »
Why do they need to pay over 12 months? Should give a check on the spot
He's not rechnitz you know.. he doesn't have the million dollars yet... But once his BOGO program takes off... Cash is going to come raining down.