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Bogo walks in a room and announces that we're almost at the end, so double your money now* before it's too late! He claims there are people vouching for him, but they have never heard of him.
ExGingi talked to Bogo for a minute and let's everyone know that he knows what he's doing. Except maybe that was for another Bogo thing he's doing that may or may not MLM related. Or something like that.
Baruch won't stop calling Bogo a liar and ExGingi a fool and a liar. He's gone over to everyone and tells them this at least dozen times.
Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. It's parve, exactly how ExGingi likes it. JJ didn't tell Freddie he was in the room as he doesn't like parve cholent or MLMs. This makes him a shvantz.
Dan is waiting for a juicy voicemail or at least an email to put in this thread. Dan loves Lakewood and was very impressed with it. Dan hates Lakewood and bashes at every opportunity {{Citation needed}}

JJ finally did teshuva. It remains to be seen if others mentioned on this thread will follow his lead.

*as long as you're from Lakewood.
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Author Topic: BOGO Tuition Scam  (Read 41228 times)

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #225 on: September 04, 2016, 11:57:46 PM »
So how many MLMs does this make for Bogomilsky?

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The present invention is unlike the well-known multi-level or pyramid type system, which provides multiple levels and are dependent on many transactions in the levels beneath a given member, incentivizing the member to recruit more customers, who in turn must also recruit more members, etc. In contrast, in the present invention, the prime member is only connected to the referred members, who are placed under the prime member in a wide (but not deep) group. Preferably the program would be implemented with a maximum group size, with a maximum number of referred members being between 10 and 20.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #226 on: September 04, 2016, 11:59:10 PM »
The present invention is unlike the well-known multi-level or pyramid type system, which provides multiple levels and are dependent on many transactions in the levels beneath a given member, incentivizing the member to recruit more customers, who in turn must also recruit more members, etc. In contrast, in the present invention, the prime member is only connected to the referred members, who are placed under the prime member in a wide (but not deep) group. Preferably the program would be implemented with a maximum group size, with a maximum number of referred members being between 10 and 20.


Huh? Is that a quote from the patent?
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #227 on: September 05, 2016, 12:00:05 AM »
Huh? Is that a quote from the patent?
Yes, i tried to put it in a box but didn't work

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #228 on: September 05, 2016, 12:06:25 AM »
Huh? Is that a quote from the patent?
You mean to say that you actually commented on it above without even reading it?
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #229 on: September 05, 2016, 12:06:57 AM »
Yes, i tried to put it in a box but didn't work
You misspelled quote
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #230 on: September 05, 2016, 12:07:54 AM »
You mean to say that you actually commented on it above without even reading it?
I didn't read through the whole thing. I saw enough to make the comment I did. This paragraph of nonsense reinforces it
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #231 on: September 05, 2016, 12:34:45 AM »
The way I understand it, think about a program similar to Plenti points.

The difference is that one can recruit several individuals to credit their spending to the recruiters point account. However unlike mlm one cannot go deep with recruiting levels, but rather wide, in recruiting individuals to credit their spending to the recruiter's point account.

No one is being asked to pay even one cent into the program, other than the participating merchants. Presumably they should be able to make a business decision whether they would benefit from it or not.

I don't see how CONSUMERS can be scammed with this (other than the time and energy spent - which might be a lot less than time and energy spent looking for award space or buying gift cards for points).

This is different than where people were actually asked to pay in and get matched by a tuition fund. I don't know what was behind that, though unlike Baruch who stated that I was a fool for not investing $ into this, and that I was a fool for advocating prudence, I would rather be דן לכף זכות (isn't that what we would all like for ourselves always, and especially in a month from now?) and ask questions directly, allowing for a response to be heard and evaluated. I didn't do so myself as this is not נוגע to me, since none of my children learn in Lakewood.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #232 on: September 05, 2016, 12:41:40 AM »
Domain Name:CHABADAMBIT.INF O
Domain Name:AMBITCHABAD.ORG
Domain Name: CHABADAMBIT.NET
I am personally appalled and offended when people mix in the word Chabad with their own business ventures, and even more so when having a .org TLD (if they would actually use Lubavitch, I would consider it a capital offense).

Unfortunately I see this way too often. The silver lining of it is that if we have stooped so low that people can do this over and over without a major outcry against it, we must be very close to the גאולה האמיתית והשלימה.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #233 on: September 05, 2016, 12:51:55 AM »
UPDATE: 8:45 PM. The site moments ago posted the following updated:

“We would like to thank all those that participated in this campaign, and those that are considering to participate.

Due to the many questions and concerns raised by members of the community, we are temporarily suspending this campaign

We are currently in talks with Rabbanim and Askanim in Lakewood, and are looking for the best way to go forward for the benefit of the community.

All the payments that were made, are secure, and are under the direct control of Zacharia Waxler and Dayan Roth.

Once we have the backing of the Rabbanim, we look forward to reopen the campaign. In the meantime, anyone that requests a refund, will be refunded promptly.

Thank you very much for putting your trust in our program, and we look forward to helping the Lakewood community going forward.”

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #234 on: September 05, 2016, 12:56:24 AM »
I thought it ended at 10pm!!

Cpa says:
SEPTEMBER 4, 2016 AT 10:43 PM
I just called the number too. They are definitely still trying to take money. Only credit or debit.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #235 on: September 05, 2016, 01:08:52 AM »
though unlike Baruch who stated that I was a fool for not investing $ into this, and that I was a fool for advocating prudence,
You are a liar. I said you were a fool for defending BOGO.

So that makes you a fool and a liar.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #236 on: September 05, 2016, 01:18:57 AM »
Simple reading comprehension. Look what I wrote, and how you responded:



So now tell me again who is lying? When I state that I have not invested and suggest that people take prudent actions you call me a fool, and when I quote you for what you said, you call me a liar.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #237 on: September 05, 2016, 05:00:46 AM »
Simple reading comprehension. Look what I wrote, and how you responded:



So now tell me again who is lying? When I state that I have not invested and suggest that people take prudent actions you call me a fool, and when I quote you for what you said, you call me a liar.
wow talk about twisting someone's words....if there was anyone against it it was Baruch from the start...
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #238 on: September 05, 2016, 07:30:23 AM »
wow talk about twisting someone's words....if there was anyone against it it was Baruch from the start...
Maybe you can tell me which words I twisted? There's not much to be twisted in a four word sentence.

I never claimed that Baruch was not opposed to it. I was just pointing out to which statements of mine he replied with his well thought through and meaningful response.

Now go back and read what I wrote and point out where I was defending the "tuition match fund". Don't be surprised if you will find out that it was my words that were twisted.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #239 on: September 05, 2016, 07:33:05 AM »
Things have gotten waaaaaaaaaay too personal.