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Bogo walks in a room and announces that we're almost at the end, so double your money now* before it's too late! He claims there are people vouching for him, but they have never heard of him.
ExGingi talked to Bogo for a minute and let's everyone know that he knows what he's doing. Except maybe that was for another Bogo thing he's doing that may or may not MLM related. Or something like that.
Baruch won't stop calling Bogo a liar and ExGingi a fool and a liar. He's gone over to everyone and tells them this at least dozen times.
Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. It's parve, exactly how ExGingi likes it. JJ didn't tell Freddie he was in the room as he doesn't like parve cholent or MLMs. This makes him a shvantz.
Dan is waiting for a juicy voicemail or at least an email to put in this thread. Dan loves Lakewood and was very impressed with it. Dan hates Lakewood and bashes at every opportunity {{Citation needed}}

JJ finally did teshuva. It remains to be seen if others mentioned on this thread will follow his lead.

*as long as you're from Lakewood.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #406 on: September 08, 2016, 11:23:05 AM »
Wonder if anyone lost money in both BOGO and Sungame.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #407 on: September 08, 2016, 11:45:34 AM »
Wonder if anyone lost money in both BOGO and Sungame.
i would assume that anyone that lost in Sungames would sue some due diligence before investing in crap
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #408 on: September 08, 2016, 11:47:55 AM »
i would assume that anyone that lost in Sungames would sue some due diligence before investing in crap

Ah, you would THINK that, but in reality, there are those who refuse to be denied a good opportunity to be scammed again.

I say it glibly but it's really not funny. There are people who are addicted to the lure of fast money. They keep the scammers in business.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #409 on: September 08, 2016, 11:49:31 AM »
Ah, you would THINK that, but in reality, there are those who refuse to be denied a good opportunity to be scammed again.

I say it glibly but it's really not funny. There are people who are addicted to the lure of fast money. They keep the scammers in business.
I would agree with you but I don't think such obvious scams will work on the same person twice
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #410 on: September 08, 2016, 11:52:36 AM »
I would agree with you but I don't think such obvious scams will work on the same person twice

Hmmm, have you ever spoken to the wives of these guys (or husbands of these ladies) who are crying because s/he went and "did it again"? I know it's hard to wrap your head around but yes just as there are serial scammers, there are serial scammees.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #411 on: September 08, 2016, 12:12:10 PM »
And that is precisely why when you hear the words - "yes he was previously involved in an MLM but that was a mistake and now he knows better and this is legit" you must RUN RUN RUN away.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #412 on: September 08, 2016, 12:12:48 PM »
http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2016/09/update-bogo-tuition-campaign-broke-terms-of-service-host-says-donations-cancelled.html
This is a good development, I am actually surprised that Youcaring.com allowed it in the first place, as the way it was worded seemed totally incongruent with the types of campaigns that site is made for.

I will clearly state here: I was wrong by initially implying that there was some merit, as I didn't initially carefully read the ad or wording on the website. As soon as I realized what was being attempted here I clearly differentiated between the "tuition match" campaign and the "loyalty program" and encouraged prudent approach.

My personal opinion is that with this fiasco he killed his loyalty program, which seems like a legitimate business which might or might have not worked, before even getting to try it. If it is to have any chance he will have to take some radical steps (such as renaming it, and removing himself from the business, and only collecting royalties if indeed it ever works out. My guess is that he wouldn't take those steps).

My personal lesson learned here is to take an extra step of caution when making public statements that could be construed in any way as an endorsement.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #413 on: September 08, 2016, 12:30:10 PM »
My personal opinion is that with this fiasco he killed his loyalty program, which seems like a legitimate business which might or might have not worked, before even getting to try it. If it is to have any chance he will have to take some radical steps (such as renaming it, and removing himself from the business, and only collecting royalties if indeed it ever works out. My guess is that he wouldn't take those steps).
I don't understand something. Once it's pretty clear to you that this guy was and is involved in some shady things, shouldn't it not matter that on a separate proposal he had a nice idea? Shouldn't you say, I better stay away from this guy - the idea sounds good but I'm not going anywhere near it with this guy involved?

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #414 on: September 08, 2016, 12:49:00 PM »
I don't understand something. Once it's pretty clear to you that this guy was and is involved in some shady things, shouldn't it not matter that on a separate proposal he had a nice idea? Shouldn't you say, I better stay away from this guy - the idea sounds good but I'm not going anywhere near it with this guy involved?
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #415 on: September 08, 2016, 03:10:39 PM »
I don't understand something. Once it's pretty clear to you that this guy was and is involved in some shady things, shouldn't it not matter that on a separate proposal he had a nice idea? Shouldn't you say, I better stay away from this guy - the idea sounds good but I'm not going anywhere near it with this guy involved?

Which is precisely why I said:

If it is to have any chance he will have to take radical steps (such as renaming it, and removing himself from the business, and only collecting royalties if indeed it ever works out. My guess is that he wouldn't take those steps).
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #416 on: September 08, 2016, 03:13:11 PM »
Wonder if anyone paid in cash.
Someone said upthread that they went to the store front and ppl lined up handing cash

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #417 on: September 08, 2016, 03:14:46 PM »
We need to add a like button to the Wiki too :D
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #418 on: September 08, 2016, 03:18:08 PM »
We need to add a like button to the Wiki too :D
If you keep it up you are going to break the Like button.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #419 on: September 08, 2016, 04:06:04 PM »
If this thread (or many other DDF threads) were reenacted in real life this is how it would sound: