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Bogo walks in a room and announces that we're almost at the end, so double your money now* before it's too late! He claims there are people vouching for him, but they have never heard of him.
ExGingi talked to Bogo for a minute and let's everyone know that he knows what he's doing. Except maybe that was for another Bogo thing he's doing that may or may not MLM related. Or something like that.
Baruch won't stop calling Bogo a liar and ExGingi a fool and a liar. He's gone over to everyone and tells them this at least dozen times.
Freddie is in the back of the room just cooking his cholent. It's parve, exactly how ExGingi likes it. JJ didn't tell Freddie he was in the room as he doesn't like parve cholent or MLMs. This makes him a shvantz.
Dan is waiting for a juicy voicemail or at least an email to put in this thread. Dan loves Lakewood and was very impressed with it. Dan hates Lakewood and bashes at every opportunity {{Citation needed}}

JJ finally did teshuva. It remains to be seen if others mentioned on this thread will follow his lead.

*as long as you're from Lakewood.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #420 on: September 08, 2016, 04:14:32 PM »
If this thread (or many other DDF threads) were reenacted in real life this is how it would sound:


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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #421 on: September 08, 2016, 05:38:08 PM »
If this thread (or many other DDF threads) were reenacted in real life this is how it would sound:
Who plays who?
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #422 on: September 09, 2016, 01:47:55 PM »
New update:http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2016/09/bogo-lakewood-update.html?m=1

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #423 on: September 09, 2016, 02:09:54 PM »
New update:http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2016/09/bogo-lakewood-update.html?m=1
So where does the free money come from again?? :)

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #424 on: September 09, 2016, 04:26:56 PM »
New update:http://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2016/09/bogo-lakewood-update.html?m=1
I guess this time around I was right by saying that I doubt he will take the only steps that might save BOGO loyalty. On the contrary, he is doing the opposite, "merging" something toxic with something that isn't even budding yet.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #425 on: September 11, 2016, 02:34:13 AM »
I think its time there was an open discussion on why the frum world has to go to such desperate measures for funds for yeshiva.

#1 the leadership is corrupt
#2 stop with fancy buildings if you have no money

etc.. I dont have solutions but witth this and sungames you can clearly see there is a sickness

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #426 on: September 11, 2016, 08:15:38 AM »


I think its time there was an open discussion on why the frum world has to go to such desperate measures for funds for yeshiva.

#1 the leadership is corrupt
#2 stop with fancy buildings if you have no money

etc.. I dont have solutions but witth this and sungames you can clearly see there is a sickness
Are you serious?
Its no secret why.
When all your students pay a quarter or less of what other private schools charge you end up with financial issues.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #427 on: September 11, 2016, 08:22:12 AM »
Are you serious?
Its no secret why.
When all your students pay a quarter or less of what other private schools charge you end up with financial issues.

Exactly.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #428 on: September 11, 2016, 08:29:20 AM »
I think its time there was an open discussion on why the frum world has to go to such desperate measures for funds for yeshiva.

#1 the leadership is corrupt
#2 stop with fancy buildings if you have no money

etc.. I dont have solutions but witth this and sungames you can clearly see there is a sickness
don't forget Bernie Madoff too
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #429 on: September 11, 2016, 09:06:45 AM »
I think its time there was an open discussion on why the frum world has to go to such desperate measures for funds for yeshiva.

#1 the leadership is corrupt
#2 stop with fancy buildings if you have no money

etc.. I dont have solutions but witth this and sungames you can clearly see there is a sickness
3. Public funds (tzedukah) goes to the extravagant and  flashier events and gets consumed by overhead instead of going to our communal infrastructure.

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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #430 on: September 11, 2016, 09:32:13 AM »
I think its time there was an open discussion on why the frum world has to go to such desperate measures for funds for yeshiva.

#1 the leadership is corrupt
#2 stop with fancy buildings if you have no money

etc.. I dont have solutions but witth this and sungames you can clearly see there is a sickness

Are you blaming the schools or the people in the schools?
Are the schools really the blame for bogo?
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #431 on: September 11, 2016, 09:32:50 AM »
Are you blaming the schools or the people in the schools?
What difference does it make? He is blaming.
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #432 on: September 11, 2016, 09:37:46 AM »
Chevron I don't think you have a point here, you are just trying to vent which I believe there's enough other threads for that ;)
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #433 on: September 11, 2016, 09:39:07 AM »
What difference does it make? He is blaming.

True dat
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Re: BOGO Tuition Scam
« Reply #434 on: September 11, 2016, 02:53:29 PM »
Every one acknowledges that the system is broken. Its broken if schools are always bankrupt, teachers on strike, parents paying 25%+ of annual income to schools etc. This BOGO thing is just feeding off the issues there are and highlights just how desperate people are.

But the sickness is there regardless of whom is to blame, the same sickness that ails millions of americans with college debts, for degrees they didnt get, need, or use.. in schools they didnt need but paid a ton for because of prestige.

Why should I vent? you think I give a crap? other than seeing friends crippled by financial loads of 40k+ a year in tuition. The Yeshiva system didn't do anything for me and I dont respect it as an institution... you can ash me but im being honest, my best years of my education and formation were spent in a cheder of 6 kids which functioned as a CO-OP school.. parents taught for 1-2 hours a day and we learned in a shull

Sure if you make 100$ an hour post tax and teach 20 hours a month for 10 months thats 20k of lost income, but if you made that much you should afford tuition.

Some ideas would be to revamp the yeshiva as an institution, the modern day yeshiva is, well, modern day.. few kids unless you were an iluy or son of wealthy parents, went to yeshiva.

The issue of economic sustainability is present in any institution no matter how noble its intentions... Avot laid it out "im ein kemach ein torah"

Every one is entitled to do as they please, as you are entitled to learn in kolel etc or choose your children's education, i'm entitled to voice my thoughts on this.

Some yeshivot are cutting edge in education and child growth etc but to compare them to private schools at even 25% ? when I was in yeshiva and got in trouble I was punished, who ever hear of a Yeshiva with a competent social worker or staff physiologist at my age ? kids used to tell horror stories of my principle, so once when I was sent to the principle, I hid in the bathroom for days

Lets not even discuss the teachers qualification, often they had 0 background and were just bochurim or newly married people.

The yeshiva system has changed and improved, but what i'm pointing to is the need to invest in education.

Rather than fancy weddings and expensive sheitels (heres where the usual people will twist my words to imply im bashing the frum community) annd of course a bed bath and beyond list which makes me envious as a single guy, community's etc should build financial frameworks for investing in chinuch.

You get married, the community gifts you with a 5k seed fund, you contribute to it, the community matches etc? it should be like a college fund, invest in your kids future.