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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

« Last edited by Jojo202 on December 16, 2020, 02:16:25 PM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1005 on: November 26, 2020, 12:34:57 AM »
So I would like to get the LG classic. It's only going to be used for talk and text. The problem is that the area where it'll be used doesn't have good service except for Verizon. Based on the last few comments it seems it can't be used directly with Verizon themselves. Anyone know how good tracfone service is for talk and text compared to Verizon. Is it the exact same?
Although there is a slight difference between Verizon direct and Verizon's MVNO (like Tracfone. See here: https://bestmvno.com/compare/verizon-mvnos/), I don't think you'll ever see a difference.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1006 on: November 27, 2020, 05:03:01 PM »
So I would like to get the LG classic. It's only going to be used for talk and text. The problem is that the area where it'll be used doesn't have good service except for Verizon. Based on the last few comments it seems it can't be used directly with Verizon themselves. Anyone know how good tracfone service is for talk and text compared to Verizon. Is it the exact same?

Pageplus or Tracfone service will work just fine.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1007 on: November 29, 2020, 01:17:52 AM »
when is this going to happen?

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1008 on: November 29, 2020, 11:38:33 AM »
when is this going to happen?

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)
What's the problem with the LG Wine 2 LTE phone?
It's a very nice and decent phone, IMO. The software of the LG Wine 2 LTE is almost identical to the old LG Exalt LTE.
I have no problem replacing the old, big, no outside screen LG Exalt LTE with the new sleek LG Wine 2 LTE (with its small-but-working outside screen).

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1009 on: November 29, 2020, 12:00:20 PM »
What's the problem with the LG Wine 2 LTE phone?
It's a very nice and decent phone, IMO. The software of the LG Wine 2 LTE is almost identical to the old LG Exalt LTE.
I have no problem replacing the old, big, no outside screen LG Exalt LTE with the new sleek LG Wine 2 LTE (with its small-but-working outside screen).

I think everyone wants to see the phone work with other carriers like the vn220 did. Unfortunately I don't see that happening anytime soon. The only company that can unlock the wine 2 to work with other carriers is tracfone.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1010 on: November 29, 2020, 05:01:33 PM »
correct, i need a unlocked phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1011 on: November 29, 2020, 05:05:14 PM »
Anyone have opinions on Nuu vs Schok vs LG Classic (all koshered via tag)?
This would be for AT&T or TMobile
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1012 on: November 29, 2020, 05:15:17 PM »
Anyone have opinions on Nuu vs Schok vs LG Classic (all koshered via tag)?
This would be for AT&T or TMobile
LG Classic is probably the best (not a sluggish) but it's not available for AT&T or TMobile anyway.

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« Reply #1013 on: November 29, 2020, 05:16:02 PM »
LG Classic is probably the best (not a sluggish) but it's not available for AT&T or TMobile anyway.
Right I'd have to switch to tracfone if I go with that one. Interesting that it's the best because it's also the cheapest!
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« Reply #1014 on: November 29, 2020, 05:17:42 PM »
Right I'd have to switch to tracfone if I go with that one. Interesting that it's the best because it's also the cheapest!
Cheapest because it's carrier locked, so it's not because it's really cheaper.

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« Reply #1015 on: November 29, 2020, 05:18:23 PM »
Cheapest because it's carrier locked, so it's not because it's really cheaper.
Aha
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1016 on: November 29, 2020, 07:31:24 PM »
Has anyone had success using the schok phone with Verizon Mvnos? It used to work for me with page plus but it is no longer working

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1017 on: November 29, 2020, 07:47:17 PM »
Has anyone had success using the schok phone with Verizon Mvnos? It used to work for me with page plus but it is no longer working

They were supposed to roll out an update to fix the issue. Check your phone.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1018 on: November 29, 2020, 11:01:25 PM »
I have, there is no new update. The last one was oct 23 2020. I was never able to activate the page plus sim in the schok phone, I activated it in a different Verizon phone and then put it in the schok phone. It worked for the entire month until the renewal date. Every month by my renewal date the sim had to be in the Verizon phone in order for the monthly plan to renew and then I could put it back in the schok phone. This past renewal date I did what I have been doing, and after the plan renewed in the Verizon phone I put it back in the schok phone. I kept on getting a message when trying to place calls “the sim is not in the phone that it was registered with, please return it to the phone it was registered with to resolve the issue
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1019 on: November 30, 2020, 12:35:34 AM »
I have, there is no new update. The last one was oct 23 2020. I was never able to activate the page plus sim in the schok phone, I activated it in a different Verizon phone and then put it in the schok phone. It worked for the entire month until the renewal date. Every month by my renewal date the sim had to be in the Verizon phone in order for the monthly plan to renew and then I could put it back in the schok phone. This past renewal date I did what I have been doing, and after the plan renewed in the Verizon phone I put it back in the schok phone. I kept on getting a message when trying to place calls “the sim is not in the phone that it was registered with, please return it to the phone it was registered with to resolve the issue
Please report it to support@schokgear.com. They promised an update to fix this issue. Customer requests can make things move quicker  ;)