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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1180 on: December 24, 2020, 12:29:14 PM »
If I understand correctly, the WM Family Mobile TMobile LG Classic phone because unlocked after 1 year, so if you know someone who bought one a year ago, maybe you can by them a new one and trade?

(But don't take my word for it, all I know about that plan I learned in this thread :) )
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1181 on: December 24, 2020, 01:37:57 PM »
Ok this has probably been discussed in here somewhere but I cant find it and dont want to go through 70 pages right now.

These are the only 4g options right now??
I currently have a Go flip 3 and HATE it. I have had very bad experience with the alcatel phones, cheaply built, lots of lag and just overall not a great phone.

I have yet to own the Schok, although I keep on considering trying it out. I'm assuming that it wasn't so great based off the fact that the price dropped in half since it came out.
(Then again thats normal with phones, although it doesnt seem to be that way in the flip phone market. In addition I noticed that theres no gen.2 that has come out since.) if anybody has had any experience with this phone I would love to hear more about it!

If you currently have the go flip 3 then the Schok is AMAZING! If you had or have any other phone then it's just mediocre. it's OK in the beginning but slowly starts to breakdown overtime...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1182 on: December 24, 2020, 02:38:51 PM »
If you currently have the go flip 3 then the Schok is AMAZING! If you had or have any other phone then it's just mediocre. it's OK in the beginning but slowly starts to breakdown overtime...
LOL :'(
I have the Go Flip 3 right now, only as a temporary solution until I work something else out.(seems like the options aren't too great  :'( ) I have owned a few of the Alcatel Flip phones but never for more than a week or so just because they were so horrible.

The Schok doesn't seem like such a bad option especially since the price has gone down significantly and can now be bought for $30-50. Does anybody have any information on how much it costs to kosher the Schok?

Also, is your Schok Koshered or just regular? not true by all phones, but on some phones the experience can be totally different after koshered.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1183 on: December 24, 2020, 02:43:26 PM »
Does anybody have any information on how much it costs to kosher the Schok?
$35 at tag
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1184 on: December 25, 2020, 01:01:10 AM »
Ok so the Schok is now with the newest update, possible to just lock the browser from within the settings (very unsecure but may be ok for a temporary fix), and also I heard, pls correct if I am wrong, that TAG Lakewood does it for $15.

Also in my experience even not filtered Schok phones had issues. Additionally, many issues were hardware related (front screen dying, buttons etc) so you can hardly blame TAG for that.

Just curious, where can you buy it for $30? I see it on some sites for $80, (down from$100) And as far as I heard, some stores in Boro Park were selling it for $100++...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1185 on: December 25, 2020, 01:40:39 AM »
Ok so the Schok is now with the newest update, possible to just lock the browser from within the settings (very unsecure but may be ok for a temporary fix), and also I heard, pls correct if I am wrong, that TAG Lakewood does it for $15.

Also in my experience even not filtered Schok phones had issues. Additionally, many issues were hardware related (front screen dying, buttons etc) so you can hardly blame TAG for that.

Just curious, where can you buy it for $30? I see it on some sites for $80, (down from$100) And as far as I heard, some stores in Boro Park were selling it for $100++...

I just bought one on ebay this week for just under 40. Brand new. You are 100% right, I've seen ads for stores in Boro Park for as much as 180, and that might be before kashering.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1186 on: December 25, 2020, 09:07:42 AM »
What are the current options for a Verizon flip phone that has message+?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1187 on: December 26, 2020, 07:46:30 PM »
What are the current options for a Verizon flip phone that has message+?
Using with what carrier?

Ok this has probably been discussed in here somewhere but I cant find it and dont want to go through 70 pages right now.

These are the only 4g options right now??
I currently have a Go flip 3 and HATE it. I have had very bad experience with the alcatel phones, cheaply built, lots of lag and just overall not a great phone.

I have yet to own the Schok, although I keep on considering trying it out. I'm assuming that it wasn't so great based off the fact that the price dropped in half since it came out.
(Then again thats normal with phones, although it doesnt seem to be that way in the flip phone market. In addition I noticed that theres no gen.2 that has come out since.) if anybody has had any experience with this phone I would love to hear more about it!

Based on the wiki I am assuming that there's no Kyocera that can be used 4g with T-Mobile.

I would love to move to a Verizon plan but I'm currently stuck with T-Mobile and cant change.

is there any good options for T-Mobile or is it similar to sprint, just you're actually paying for a decent plan and there's still no phones??

I'm assuming that a locked family mobile phone cant be used with T-Mobile, otherwise I would give the Family Mobile Classic Flip a try. If I'm wrong about this please let me know.

if anybody has any insight on this for me I would love for some help. TIA

  Tried those both and Neither seemed to work.
With the Kyocera Cadence I tried using with T-mobile the reception was horrific I had no cells, could be in the area I was trying it was not the best, I'll definitely try it again.
  I know people that were using it on Sprint only had 3 G while T mobile supposedly only works with 2G with that phone.

And in regards to the T mobile Walmart version phone, it only seems to work with trac phone service and it sister companies, it would not accept the SIM from T mobile directly. Still trying to look for an unlock code or someone that can unlock it for me even though Kosher Celluar says that its impossible.

 
If I understand correctly, the WM Family Mobile TMobile LG Classic phone because unlocked after 1 year, so if you know someone who bought one a year ago, maybe you can by them a new one and trade?

(But don't take my word for it, all I know about that plan I learned in this thread :) )

 Indeed the only way to be able to use that device would be to find someone who used it for a year and doesn't care to continue using their phone with the carrier and not looking to switch to T-Mobile or Verizon directly.

   Though I'm curious to know if the CDMA version of LG classic would work on T mobile? Or only a Walmart Version?
  What I don't understand is why would LG come out with a decent phone and lock it with only one carrier? its like apple coming out with a phone locking it to TracFone or only T-Mobile and etc.
  I know the FCC went hard on the companies that lock their phones, so they all made terms to be met in order to be eligible for an unlock, while they're all willing to unlock the phones after a certain time frame.
   
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1188 on: December 26, 2020, 07:48:24 PM »
Is there any other carrier besides for Verizon that has “message+”?

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« Reply #1189 on: December 26, 2020, 07:51:44 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1191 on: December 26, 2020, 07:54:22 PM »
For a flip phone?
Then an apk would have to do, but not familiar with how to download the apks and bluetooth them over and all.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1192 on: December 26, 2020, 07:58:21 PM »
There was an ad in this weeks Yated for a free flip phone from Xchange Telecom with 1yr of service ($20 a month plan) until 12/31
https://www.xchangetele.com/homeconnex/home/mobileservices or call/text 718-663-0800 Mention Ad in application
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1193 on: December 26, 2020, 08:55:19 PM »
Then an apk would have to do, but not familiar with how to download the apks and bluetooth them over and all.
 So will allow for others to respond.
Dont think its really possible to add a full functioning message+ app to any of the flip phones that don't come with it built-in. So really the answer would be no flip phone that I know of, except the not current, hard to find ones. Just buy the Kyocera Cadence


   Though I'm curious to know if the CDMA version of LG classic would work on T mobile? Or only a Walmart Version?
  What I don't understand is why would LG come out with a decent phone and lock it with only one carrier? its like apple coming out with a phone locking it to TracFone or only T-Mobile and etc.
  I know the FCC went hard on the companies that lock their phones, so they all made terms to be met in order to be eligible for an unlock, while they're all willing to unlock the phones after a certain time frame.
 
What you have to think is if any of the Carriers want it. It definitely seems like Verizon, who was originally at the forefront of this whole thing, decided that they rather make the $$ themselves and produce their own (garbage) hardware. Other carriers have always been behind and think that their customers will stick with them either way. I would imagine that LG charges a bunch more $$ for this phone than Alcatel and all that other garbage. (Tracfone is probably betting on their 1yr contract and impossible to unlock policy to make up the difference, and the fact that most customers will stay after the 1yr...)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1194 on: December 26, 2020, 09:12:14 PM »
Using with what carrier?

  Tried those both and Neither seemed to work.
With the Kyocera Cadence I tried using with T-mobile the reception was horrific I had no cells, could be in the area I was trying it was not the best, I'll definitely try it again.
  I know people that were using it on Sprint only had 3 G while T mobile supposedly only works with 2G with that phone.

And in regards to the T mobile Walmart version phone, it only seems to work with trac phone service and it sister companies, it would not accept the SIM from T mobile directly. Still trying to look for an unlock code or someone that can unlock it for me even though Kosher Celluar says that its impossible.

   
 Indeed the only way to be able to use that device would be to find someone who used it for a year and doesn't care to continue using their phone with the carrier and not looking to switch to T-Mobile or Verizon directly.

   Though I'm curious to know if the CDMA version of LG classic would work on T mobile? Or only a Walmart Version?
  What I don't understand is why would LG come out with a decent phone and lock it with only one carrier? its like apple coming out with a phone locking it to TracFone or only T-Mobile and etc.
  I know the FCC went hard on the companies that lock their phones, so they all made terms to be met in order to be eligible for an unlock, while they're all willing to unlock the phones after a certain time frame.
 

It's not 100% impossible its 10000% impossible to get an unlock code for ANY Tracfone and unlock the device. As far as an LG Wine 2 for T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T I do have 1 that works.  :P
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1195 on: December 26, 2020, 09:13:32 PM »
I don't know anything about it (so for all I know it's a scam), but when I put my verizon LG Classic's IMEI into https://www.imei.info/, there was an option to purchase an unlock code.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1196 on: December 26, 2020, 09:20:58 PM »
I don't know anything about it (so for all I know it's a scam), but when I put my verizon LG Classic's IMEI into https://www.imei.info/, there was an option to purchase an unlock code.
If you do read a little further it asks you to input certain numbers into the phone to get to unlock screen but there is no such option on the lg classic.
 I tried that.

 Seems you need an unlock key like all other devices which they plug into your computer and they manually unlock it.
Unless there's numbers that I'm not familiar with to pull up the unlock screen.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1197 on: December 26, 2020, 09:21:10 PM »
I don't know anything about it (so for all I know it's a scam), but when I put my verizon LG Classic's IMEI into https://www.imei.info/, there was an option to purchase an unlock code.
It does say clearly do not purchase this if you can't pull up the unlock screen.
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« Reply #1198 on: December 26, 2020, 09:22:51 PM »
As I said, "I don't know anything about it" :)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1199 on: December 26, 2020, 09:23:57 PM »
It's not 100% impossible its 10000% impossible to get an unlock code for ANY Tracfone and unlock the device. As far as an LG Wine 2 for T-Mobile, Verizon, or AT&T I do have 1 that works. 
I hear you, I definitely agree.
 Tried many different options all came back I'm sorry this device doesn't work.
   
   just curious what is the procedure when they go ahead and unlock it after a year?

Do they unlock it manually on their end or do they input a code? or do they have you connected to your computer?

 Totally not familiar with the LG wine 2 but will take a look right now.
 
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