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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #120 on: January 10, 2018, 02:02:01 AM »
Where on XDA do you see that anyone had success installing any apps?!

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« Reply #121 on: January 10, 2018, 02:14:10 AM »
Where on XDA do you see that anyone had success installing any apps?!
No one has been successful, They're all hitting a roadblock.

But it may eventually pan out

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #122 on: January 11, 2018, 06:47:22 PM »
Where on XDA do you see that anyone had success installing any apps?!

In the thread I posted the link to- the second post in the thread user jfn0802 said they'd been using adb to sideload apps. But they haven't been online since like October... Everyone else I've seen is running into INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_INCONSISTENT_CERTIFICATES, as am I.

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« Reply #123 on: January 11, 2018, 07:07:30 PM »
No one has been successful, They're all hitting a roadblock.

But it may will eventually pan out. Though by that time we might be on to the next device.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #124 on: January 15, 2018, 09:31:55 PM »
Anybody have any recommendations for a flip phone besides the Alcatel go flip that will work with T-Mobile's 4G network? Tia

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« Reply #125 on: January 15, 2018, 10:22:07 PM »
Anybody have any recommendations for a flip phone besides the Alcatel go flip that will work with T-Mobile's 4G network? Tia
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #126 on: January 15, 2018, 11:24:40 PM »
Does the Samsung new flip smartphone work on VZW?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #127 on: January 16, 2018, 06:49:29 AM »
Does the Samsung new flip smartphone work on VZW?
Definitely not. Samsung's folder phones are not made for the US, and there's no Asian market phone that works on VZW.

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« Reply #128 on: January 16, 2018, 08:37:35 PM »
Definitely not. Samsung's folder phones are not made for the US, and there's no Asian market phone that works on VZW.
How about the Lenovo Flip phone?

Lenovo A588T Elders/Business Vertical Flip Smart Phone Android 4.4 GSM 4 inch TFT Screen ROM 4GB MTK6582M Quad Core 5MP Camera Dual SIM
 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBOTIKG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kJQxAbGGF94W8

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #129 on: January 16, 2018, 08:38:50 PM »
Are there any Smartphone flip phones that have a qwerty keyboards ( Android, Windows, etc.)

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« Reply #130 on: January 17, 2018, 07:25:53 AM »
How about the Lenovo Flip phone?

Lenovo A588T Elders/Business Vertical Flip Smart Phone Android 4.4 GSM 4 inch TFT Screen ROM 4GB MTK6582M Quad Core 5MP Camera Dual SIM
 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RBOTIKG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_kJQxAbGGF94W8
Even more definite... Lenovo, Huawei, Xiaomi and the like never made a phone compatible with Verizon. (besides the fact that this model is very old running Android 4.4.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #131 on: January 18, 2018, 06:37:13 PM »
Is there any functioning (google or 3rd party) google voice app for blackberry os 6-7?
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« Reply #132 on: January 19, 2018, 08:29:22 AM »
Is there any functioning (google or 3rd party) google voice app for blackberry os 6-7?
If there's any SIP softphone app that works on it, you should be able to get it to work using simonics.com
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« Reply #133 on: January 19, 2018, 09:04:41 AM »
If there's any SIP softphone app that works on it, you should be able to get it to work using simonics.com
Looking for the other app for text and placing outgoing calls using the shadow numbers.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #134 on: January 31, 2018, 07:38:39 PM »
I'm looking for a good old flip (dumb) phone for every day use.

I was always a Nokia fan. What would you guys recommend?

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« Reply #135 on: February 01, 2018, 03:35:52 AM »
I'm looking for a good old flip (dumb) phone for every day use.

I was always a Nokia fan. What would you guys recommend?
Are you carrier specific?
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« Reply #136 on: February 01, 2018, 08:36:25 AM »
Are you carrier specific?
I thought I wrote unlocked but I see I forgot to write that.

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« Reply #137 on: February 01, 2018, 09:15:49 AM »
I thought I wrote unlocked but I see I forgot to write that.
Unlocked is not enough information. An iPhone, or a Pixel works on all currently available networks or bands. I don't think that a flip phone exists which could work on any network. Once you know the network ,you can figure out what works. (Or do you also need it to work in the UK or other countries).
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« Reply #138 on: February 01, 2018, 06:20:12 PM »
Unlocked is not enough information. An iPhone, or a Pixel works on all currently available networks or bands. I don't think that a flip phone exists which could work on any network. Once you know the network ,you can figure out what works. (Or do you also need it to work in the UK or other countries).
I guess you're right (trying to get into the minds of people 15 years ago).
Right now I'm on Cricket (AT&T). If it can work in the UK and other countries on unspecified networks that would be great but I don't expect to find that.

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« Reply #139 on: February 01, 2018, 06:22:24 PM »

I guess you're right (trying to get into the minds of people 15 years ago).
Right now I'm on Cricket (AT&T). If it can work in the UK and other countries on unspecified networks that would be great but I don't expect to find that.
So for AT&T network you need something that works on their 3G bands.

First try to see what AT&T offers.
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