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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1300 on: January 18, 2021, 07:16:41 PM »
maybe be all very true but if you are 1. want to use tello and  2. want to filter may be the only option.
what about alcatel go flip 3. its 4g, sold on tello's website now reduced to $75 ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1301 on: January 18, 2021, 08:52:31 PM »
what about alcatel go flip 3. its 4g, sold on tello's website now reduced to $75 ?
Stay away from Alcatel phones

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1302 on: January 18, 2021, 11:03:42 PM »
what about alcatel go flip 3. its 4g, sold on tello's website now reduced to $75 ?
Indeed. Garbage phones.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1303 on: January 19, 2021, 05:58:44 AM »
Hot mobile? That's a gsm service.
 Let alone T-Mobile doesn't work here in the US. Works on 2g and at&t works with 3g if your lucky.
 I would not suggest this device.

 Look for the UN220 or something similar.
Hot mobile is a cell phone provider in Israel.
 Where can i get a UN220

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1304 on: January 19, 2021, 10:24:09 AM »
Hot mobile is a cell phone provider in Israel.
 Where can i get a UN220
I just saw one on eBay for $119.
  But I think that's gone now.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1305 on: January 19, 2021, 02:03:22 PM »
Does this work in israel with a hot sim? And USA with usmobile sim?
Many use it on Hot and Golan but you will not have 4g as they all use Band 3 - not supported by this phone or the UN220 so they would be the same in israel.
That said, they are prob better than any other israeli meushar phone, and VoLTE is not widespread בהארץ.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1306 on: January 19, 2021, 02:51:30 PM »
The un220 can be bought for about 130 heavily used on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Wine-LTE-UN220-8GB-Silver-GSM-Unlocked-Cellular-Phone-003-/133399835505?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 or in better condition for 160+ on eBay

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1307 on: January 19, 2021, 07:28:11 PM »
Stay away from Alcatel phones
Indeed. Garbage phones.
for talk and text as well ? dont need it for browsing

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1308 on: January 19, 2021, 08:01:56 PM »
Alcatel is the worst! I know of multiple different models. I have friends who only use talk and text. The problems range from either being slow when you text, incoherent phone conversations, to just overall cheap laggy phones. Some models scroll through the entire text conversation automatically when you click on it to bring you to the end. It's not a well thought out phone.
Just because you only use it for talk and text does not mean it will be any better.
Stay away!!!

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1309 on: January 19, 2021, 08:11:02 PM »
for talk and text as well? don't need it for browsing
YES! It's a bad phone for everything, even just talk and text. Unless you have no other option stay away.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1310 on: January 20, 2021, 02:32:23 AM »
for talk and text as well ? dont need it for browsing
I recently bought two Alcatel smart flips for two siblings.
  They've been complaining since day one that the phone is not clear, very slow, turns off on them.

To me it's a little odd that a company like Alcatel would spend so much money on some Chinese garbage.

if they're looking to spend money why not spend a few more bucks and make it a solid rugged phone.

 If you can find the LG classic Flip or the LG wine two or the exalt version that's unlocked or the Kyocera Cadence that would be your best option.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1311 on: January 20, 2021, 12:38:53 PM »
I recently bought two Alcatel smart flips for two siblings.
  They've been complaining since day one that the phone is not clear, very slow, turns off on them.

To me it's a little odd that a company like Alcatel would spend so much money on some Chinese garbage.

if they're looking to spend money why not spend a few more bucks and make it a solid rugged phone.

 If you can find the LG classic Flip or the LG wine two or the exalt version that's unlocked or the Kyocera Cadence that would be your best option.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1312 on: January 20, 2021, 01:06:05 PM »
YES! It's a bad phone for everything, even just talk and text. Unless you have no other option stay away.

it might be only option if you want 4G, Tello and TAG filter

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1313 on: January 20, 2021, 03:53:11 PM »
it might be only option if you want 4G, Tello and TAG filter
there's a reason I left tello :(

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« Reply #1314 on: January 20, 2021, 05:38:49 PM »
Not sure if this helps anyone, but I spoke to tello today. Now with the T-Mobile Sprint merger, tello now offers GSM. So I wouldn't say that you're stuck to only garbage Alcatel phones. The only thing you need to keep in mind, is that the phone has to be VOLte compatible.

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« Reply #1315 on: January 20, 2021, 05:51:17 PM »
To me it's a little odd that a company like Alcatel would spend so much money on some Chinese garbage.

if they're looking to spend money why not spend a few more bucks and make it a solid rugged phone.

These phones run on a cheap OS which sells phenomenally in other cheap third world countries and therefore most people who buy these phones can't really afford an expensive phone. Hence the reason why they're buying this.  So basically, when you're buying an Alcatel you're buying cheap third world garbage.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1316 on: January 20, 2021, 09:36:08 PM »
These phones run on a cheap OS which sells phenomenally in other cheap third world countries and therefore most people who buy these phones can't really afford an expensive phone. Hence the reason why they're buying this.  So basically, when you're buying an Alcatel you're buying cheap third world garbage.
That's true.
It runs on 'KaiOS' software (KaiOS is a tiny OS made for super low-end devices), which was rarely used in North America until the Alcatel 4G basic devices.

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« Reply #1317 on: January 21, 2021, 08:34:06 AM »
That's true.
It runs on 'KaiOS' software (KaiOS is a tiny OS made for super low-end devices), which was rarely used in North America until the Alcatel 4G basic devices.
actually all the new nokia basic handsets which they are updating to 4g, such as the 6300 800 etc all run on kaios

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1318 on: January 21, 2021, 09:03:35 AM »
Not sure if this helps anyone, but I spoke to tello today. Now with the T-Mobile Sprint merger, tello now offers GSM. So I wouldn't say that you're stuck to only garbage Alcatel phones. The only thing you need to keep in mind, is that the phone has to be VOLte compatible.

interesting thanks!
so what other basic 4G filterable phone options are there now with the upcoming merger?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1319 on: January 22, 2021, 03:24:52 PM »
Never seen this phone, What service does this work on?

https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-AN220-wine
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