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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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« Reply #1480 on: May 13, 2021, 10:18:11 AM »
Best non smartphone with whatsapp and email?
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Best non smartphone with whatsapp and email?
Non smartphone with WhatsApp? ::)

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Non smartphone with WhatsApp? ::)
Yes. I know about the Nokia 2720, is there anything better out there?
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« Reply #1483 on: May 13, 2021, 02:27:35 PM »
Any way to transfer all my contacts from my iPhone?
Yes pretty simple. Get an app from the appstore
(for example-not tested- https://apps.apple.com/us/app/my-contacts-backup/id446784593)
 that will export your contacts as a vcf and send via email to a computer/ android phone. transfer the .vcf file to the Sunbeam via Bluetooth/sd card/usb transfer.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1484 on: May 13, 2021, 04:25:29 PM »
Best non smartphone with whatsapp and email?
You can put whatsApp on the Sonim XP3 if you know what you are doing.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1485 on: May 14, 2021, 09:37:47 AM »
Is there any non-touch android based flip that can support google play services?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1486 on: May 14, 2021, 11:11:06 AM »
does sprint have any flip phone that can be Koshered?

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« Reply #1487 on: May 14, 2021, 11:12:49 AM »
does sprint have any flip phone that can be Koshered?
Just get the ones out of metal or plastic, glass some say can't be.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1488 on: May 14, 2021, 07:09:22 PM »
does sprint have any flip phone that can be Koshered?
Alcatel Go Flip 4044t and Alcatel Go flip 3 4052w are both good options

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« Reply #1489 on: May 16, 2021, 12:35:38 AM »
Alcatel Go Flip 4044t and Alcatel Go flip 3 4052w are both horrible options, but can be kashered and are on sprint
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does sprint have any flip phone that can be Koshered?
Sonim XP3.
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Is there any non-touch android based flip that can support google play services?

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Can you please explain that?
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« Reply #1492 on: May 16, 2021, 02:14:24 AM »
Is there any non-touch android based flip that can support google play services?

I know my way around getting it done if it is known to work

The SCHOK Classic Flip supports Google Play Services.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1527855-REG/schok_sc3218b_classic_flip_gsm_phone.html

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« Reply #1493 on: May 16, 2021, 12:21:19 PM »
Alcatel Go Flip 4044t and Alcatel Go flip 3 4052w are both good options
Good for kosher. not good for phone

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1494 on: May 19, 2021, 11:51:22 AM »
At the end did anyone got to work the Message+ on the LG classic? I'm looking to buy it but am very frustrated of even thinking to go back to old texting I'm used to the kyocera cadence. Can anyone help please?

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« Reply #1496 on: May 20, 2021, 08:57:03 PM »
What's the current cheapest option for a kosher phone (no internet), that works with the cheapest unlimited talk and text plans (something like hello mobile with $5 / month)?
Don't care about software features or phone durability.

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« Reply #1497 on: May 21, 2021, 03:44:41 PM »
Get a LG classic for 30 and use the 20$ month plan or try to by a 1 year card on ebay as discussed earlier
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« Reply #1498 on: May 21, 2021, 03:58:34 PM »
Get a LG classic for 30 and use the 20$ month plan or try to by a 1 year card on ebay as discussed earlier
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=119773.340
Isn't that an expensive way to run?
$20/month vs $5/month

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« Reply #1499 on: May 21, 2021, 04:21:10 PM »
Isn't that an expensive way to run?
$20/month vs $5/month
If you pull @myi shtick then you only pay for service 50% of the year anyway. But yes it’s still double the price. The question is what phone to go with otherwise, you may very well end up paying the same amount after you pay for the phone.
What's the current cheapest option for a kosher phone (no internet), that works with the cheapest unlimited talk and text plans (something like hello mobile with $5 / month)?
Don't care about software features or phone durability.
3g or 4g?
If you go with 3g then you can just get some unlocked old phone from eBay for cheap.
If you go with 4g and you really don’t care about the phone you can get a cheap go flip for a few bucks but fair warning it really will be a piece of garbage.