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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1580 on: July 07, 2021, 04:43:57 PM »
Probably not such good news; where will we get normal dump phones now:

https://www.lg.com/us/notice

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You're a bit late... it's 3 months old news... See LG is quitting the smartphone business

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1581 on: July 08, 2021, 03:52:38 PM »
I think a LG classic may be great for you. What’s your price range and do you already have existing service?
I have visible right now but willing to change. I would need a service that has unlimited talk text and hotspot. You can kasher the classic and still keep the hotspot?
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« Reply #1582 on: July 13, 2021, 04:00:40 AM »
I have visible right now but willing to change. I would need a service that has unlimited talk text and hotspot. You can kasher the classic and still keep the hotspot?
Don't think TracFone is your go to phone plan for hot spot.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1583 on: July 13, 2021, 03:50:02 PM »
I have visible right now but willing to change. I would need a service that has unlimited talk text and hotspot. You can kasher the classic and still keep the hotspot?
I don’t think Tracfone has any plan with unlimited data anyway. But if you’re planning on buying a unlocked classic flip, you can leave on hotspot if you kasher with ADB.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1584 on: July 15, 2021, 05:42:22 AM »
Any way to unlock this phone?

Total Wireless LG Classic Flip 4G LTE prepaid Flip Phone (Locked) - Black - 8GB - Sim Card Included - CDMA (TWLGL125DCP)

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« Reply #1585 on: July 15, 2021, 09:07:18 AM »
Any way to unlock this phone?

Total Wireless LG Classic Flip 4G LTE prepaid Flip Phone (Locked) - Black - 8GB - Sim Card Included - CDMA (TWLGL125DCP)
No. you can buy an unlocked one for $150+ (not sure exactly somewhere in that range)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1586 on: July 19, 2021, 05:12:55 PM »
Any way to unlock this phone?

Total Wireless LG Classic Flip 4G LTE prepaid Flip Phone (Locked) - Black - 8GB - Sim Card Included - CDMA (TWLGL125DCP)
i have a u.s cellular lg wine 2 which is also known as the classic unlocked for $100

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1587 on: July 25, 2021, 03:33:12 AM »
Nokia 225 comes with so many apps, any way to remove them and/or kasher the phone without voiding the warranty?

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« Reply #1588 on: July 26, 2021, 10:21:43 PM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1589 on: July 26, 2021, 10:40:36 PM »
Tello uses the T-mobile network, meaning that the UN220 probably wont work, the same way it wont work on T-mobile.

So what do people use for Tello? Dont see in the wiki and not much info in this thread

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« Reply #1590 on: July 27, 2021, 09:29:58 PM »
So what do people use for Tello? Dont see in the wiki and not much info in this thread

Nokia 225 and Nokia 6300 work.
I would assume any unlocked Tmobile would work.

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« Reply #1591 on: July 28, 2021, 11:04:35 AM »
Nokia 225 and Nokia 6300 work.
I would assume any unlocked Tmobile would work.

thx. What about a flip phone?

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« Reply #1592 on: July 28, 2021, 12:28:56 PM »
why not the sonim xp3. i assume it would work on tello

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« Reply #1593 on: July 28, 2021, 12:49:49 PM »
why not the sonim xp3. i assume it would work on tello

Any others? Wanted something for my daughter

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« Reply #1594 on: July 28, 2021, 01:40:43 PM »
Any others? Wanted something for my daughter
There are the coolpad snap or alcatel, but they are not as good. Actually im not sure about the t-mobile version of the alcatel, it might be better the the others. Again Im not positive they work on tello but i assume they do.

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« Reply #1595 on: July 28, 2021, 01:43:29 PM »
maybe this will help, im not sure if it was posted earlier



(the t-mobile / sprint phones should work on tello)

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« Reply #1596 on: July 29, 2021, 08:25:14 PM »
maybe this will help, im not sure if it was posted earlier



(the t-mobile / sprint phones should work on tello)
Wouldn't say that list is too accurate, being that the very first phone is free to put a livigent filter. I have put on a handful of filters on them in the past.

The best option (which is also free) is http://filterlg.com/ provided by gentech. This is a free option although it requires you to install it yourself.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1597 on: July 29, 2021, 08:50:32 PM »
Wouldn't say that list is too accurate, being that the very first phone is free to put a livigent filter. I have put on a handful of filters on them in the past.

The best option (which is also free) is http://filterlg.com/ provided by gentech. This is a free option although it requires you to install it yourself.

I think that they are using a different filter, like the kosher cellutions one, to allow app installation. Thats why they charge.

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« Reply #1598 on: July 29, 2021, 10:47:31 PM »
Wouldn't say that list is too accurate, being that the very first phone is free to put a livigent filter. I have put on a handful of filters on them in the past.
The list is accurate, as its a list of TAGs services. Are they your best options, maybe not, but they are trying to do a service to the community and the costs are not their own.
Are there things they could be doing differently, probably. The first that comes to mind is having someone who can run adb there and filter them for free. It would be a toeles if people knew they didnt have to pay to get a filter as im sure it holds people back.

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« Reply #1599 on: July 30, 2021, 01:07:30 AM »
The list is accurate, as its a list of TAGs services. Are they your best options, maybe not, but they are trying to do a service to the community and the costs are not their own.
Are there things they could be doing differently, probably. The first that comes to mind is having someone who can run adb there and filter them for free. It would be a toeles if people knew they didnt have to pay to get a filter as im sure it holds people back.
But then the phone can be reset, which would create an issue in many situations (e.g. parents filtering phone for child), which ends up being really sticky and nitty gritty exactly when and what should be done...