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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1600 on: July 30, 2021, 01:48:08 AM »
But then the phone can be reset, which would create an issue in many situations (e.g. parents filtering phone for child), which ends up being really sticky and nitty gritty exactly when and what should be done...
I doubt you can put apps on those pre-installed filters from tag.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1601 on: July 30, 2021, 11:59:03 AM »
But then the phone can be reset, which would create an issue in many situations (e.g. parents filtering phone for child), which ends up being really sticky and nitty gritty exactly when and what should be done...
Your right. I forgot about that problem. It happens to be that im on the sonim xp3 which has an excellent parental controls app built in that can block factory reset. Its a great phone, they should really be more popular...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1602 on: July 30, 2021, 01:25:08 PM »
I doubt you can put apps on those pre-installed filters from tag.

No they are not putting with ABD when they're installing the filter for 25 bucks.
I was replying to this:
Are there things they could be doing differently, probably. The first that comes to mind is having someone who can run adb there and filter them for free. It would be a toeles if people knew they didnt have to pay to get a filter as im sure it holds people back.

Your right. I forgot about that problem. It happens to be that im on the sonim xp3 which has an excellent parental controls app built in that can block factory reset. Its a great phone, they should really be more popular...
Hard to convince people to get a brick, no matter how good it is...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1603 on: July 30, 2021, 01:32:47 PM »
I was replying to this:Hard to convince people to get a brick, no matter how good it is...
I know... but its a shame, really the only con is weak vibration, besides for size. Im in the middle of setting up a lg classic, it just doesnt compare in response time

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1604 on: August 01, 2021, 01:54:21 AM »
Anyone know about the functionality of the new Nokia 2720 v phones and especially how their operating system compares to the android one on the Kyocera Cadence? I just lost my Cadence and want to know if it's a significant downgrade to the point that it will drive me nuts? Also the Nokia phone is better or worse then the LG classic?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1605 on: August 01, 2021, 11:34:36 AM »
Your right. I forgot about that problem. It happens to be that im on the sonim xp3 which has an excellent parental controls app built in that can block factory reset. Its a great phone, they should really be more popular...
I have a friend who just bought a sonim xp3 and asked me to help him kasher it.

There is no tag near me. What’s the best/easiest way to kasher it?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1606 on: August 01, 2021, 12:04:29 PM »
I have a friend who just bought a sonim xp3 and asked me to help him kasher it.

There is no tag near me. What’s the best/easiest way to kasher it?
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« Reply #1607 on: August 01, 2021, 03:59:52 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1608 on: August 01, 2021, 09:25:32 PM »
What's the best option for someone who wants a phone with a physical qwerty keyboard? Doesn't have to be kosher, just a full keyboard.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1609 on: August 01, 2021, 09:30:23 PM »
What's the best option for someone who wants a phone with a physical qwerty keyboard? Doesn't have to be kosher, just a full keyboard.
Blackberry
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1610 on: August 01, 2021, 09:44:07 PM »
Blackberry
Thanks. Is there an option that also doesn't have a touchscreen?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1611 on: August 01, 2021, 09:51:07 PM »
Thanks. Is there an option that also doesn't have a touchscreen?

Older blackberries (e.g. 8330/Curve) don’t have a touchscreen, but I’m not sure how supported they are on current networks and/or how well the browser supports current websites. Also not sure whether any 3rd party apps are still supported.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1612 on: August 01, 2021, 11:33:18 PM »
Blackberry
There are big issues with old blackberries (blackberry's?) and network compatibility so I would be cautions. And that's Before att 3g decommissioning:
https://www.att.com/offers/network/3g-network-sunset/
and Blackberry end of life:
https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/support/devices/end-of-life

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1613 on: August 02, 2021, 12:16:25 AM »
There are big issues with old blackberries (blackberry's?) and network compatibility so I would be cautions. And that's Before att 3g decommissioning:
https://www.att.com/offers/network/3g-network-sunset/
and Blackberry end of life:
https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/support/devices/end-of-life

Figured this might be the case, a part of me still misses my trusty BB.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1614 on: August 02, 2021, 09:48:11 AM »
So aside from BlackBerry are there any other options for someone who wants a physical keyboard and no touchscreen? Doesn't need to be  a great phone and doesn't need any apps (though Waze/maps would be nice).

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1615 on: August 02, 2021, 12:05:16 PM »
So aside from BlackBerry are there any other options for someone who wants a physical keyboard and no touchscreen? Doesn't need to be  a great phone and doesn't need any apps (though Waze/maps would be nice).
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1616 on: August 02, 2021, 01:00:55 PM »
So aside from BlackBerry are there any other options for someone who wants a physical keyboard and no touchscreen? Doesn't need to be  a great phone and doesn't need any apps (though Waze/maps would be nice).
No
There are still phones on sprint/t mobile that have qwerty keyobards, 3g service though. There is one that even looks like a blackberry, not sure of the name.You might have some difficulty getting them set up with service but if the imei is in the system it should be easier.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1617 on: August 02, 2021, 11:49:52 PM »
There are still phones on sprint/t mobile that have qwerty keyobards, 3g service though. There is one that even looks like a blackberry, not sure of the name.You might have some difficulty getting them set up with service but if the imei is in the system it should be easier.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1618 on: August 03, 2021, 10:40:51 AM »
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Not exactly sure what you mean. I know people that have them... I myself had one til not long ago.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1619 on: August 03, 2021, 11:04:47 AM »
Not exactly sure what you mean. I know people that have them... I myself had one til not long ago.
Exactly. I actually still have one, on Verizon (lg octane-2010) and its great. But as the networks move toward 5g they are making it harder or even impossible to activate a 3g phone. (Ironically Verizon moved from first to shut down, to last https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/27/22457255/verizon-att-3g-shutdown-date). Telling someone that there is an option is misleading them. Most of the networks are retiring their networks soon (https://www.sprint.com/en/support/cdma-retirement-legal-notice.html), so whatever someone might get to work, is only going to last a few months at best. Although the dates may change (as we saw with Verizon many times), its still going to happen, so no one should go invest in a device that will turn into a brick within months.