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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


« Last edited by Jojo202 on August 15, 2022, 08:19:23 PM »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1660 on: September 19, 2021, 04:58:25 PM »
Yes, just a little bulky.
Thanks. Don’t really have a better option on sprint…

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1661 on: September 19, 2021, 07:12:29 PM »
Has anyone tried using the AT&T or sprint sonims on T-mobile? do they get VoLte?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1662 on: September 19, 2021, 07:13:02 PM »
Has anyone tried using the AT&T or sprint sonims on T-mobile? do they get VoLte?
I had better luck on Sprint.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1663 on: September 19, 2021, 07:16:49 PM »
I had better luck on Sprint.
To clarify: DO you mean using a sprint phone on tmobile?
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« Reply #1664 on: September 19, 2021, 07:17:12 PM »
Meaning using a sprint phone on tmobile?
No. A Sprint phone on Sprint.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1665 on: September 19, 2021, 07:18:02 PM »
No. A Sprint phone on Sprint.
I have a Tmo postpaid plan. Will they give me a Sprint sim considering they are all one company?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1666 on: September 19, 2021, 11:58:54 PM »
I have a Tmo postpaid plan. Will they give me a Sprint sim considering they are all one company?
probably not. they are trying to move everyone to T-Mobile, not the other way around

New Question: I tried a T-Mobile sim from sprint to use in a T-Mobile, not sprint, phone, and it didn't work, because the phone is not compatible with Sprint. Does that make sense?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1667 on: September 26, 2021, 09:16:10 PM »
Yes, just a little bulky.
just got it. it is VERY bulky... are there any other options that work with sprint and can be kashered?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1668 on: September 27, 2021, 12:19:31 AM »
just got it. it is VERY bulky... are there any other options that work with sprint and can be kashered?
The only other one I see on tags list is the Alcatel 4044T
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1669 on: September 27, 2021, 12:00:20 PM »
New Question: I tried a T-Mobile sim from sprint to use in a T-Mobile, not sprint, phone, and it didn't work, because the phone is not compatible with Sprint. Does that make sense?
Yes, I had the same thing. I tried using a T-Mobile Schock Classic with a T-Mobile sim card from Sprint, and they told me it won't work because the phone isn't compatible with Sprint

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1670 on: September 27, 2021, 12:40:27 PM »
After tello what is the next cheapest call and text plan that has a phone that can be kashered?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1671 on: September 29, 2021, 11:19:12 PM »
After tello what is the next cheapest call and text plan that has a phone that can be kashered?
hellomobile
$5 per month unlimited talk n text inc tax

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1672 on: September 30, 2021, 12:00:00 AM »
hellomobile
$5 per month unlimited talk n text inc tax
I tried to use them but I couldn’t figure out how to activate the SIM.

Nonexistent customer service.

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« Reply #1673 on: September 30, 2021, 09:05:29 AM »
I tried to use them but I couldn’t figure out how to activate the SIM.

Nonexistent customer service.
True but once you set it up, its too cheap to pass

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« Reply #1674 on: September 30, 2021, 09:34:47 AM »
hellomobile
$5 per month unlimited talk n text inc tax
what service do they run on?

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« Reply #1675 on: September 30, 2021, 09:35:13 AM »
True but once you set it up, its too cheap to pass
are they easy to port out of?

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« Reply #1676 on: September 30, 2021, 09:47:17 AM »
what service do they run on?
T-Mobile network

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« Reply #1677 on: September 30, 2021, 10:06:11 AM »
are they easy to port out of?
Is any company easy?

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« Reply #1678 on: September 30, 2021, 10:13:47 AM »
Is any company easy?
IME yes even tello... might need a quick call but still easy..

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1679 on: September 30, 2021, 11:13:15 AM »
There was a sale on Kosher phones adverstised on Yom Tov in one of the newspapers, something like a phone for $65, anyone know the details?