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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone carrier, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon NVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera Dura series
Can be kashered by tag

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE




Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1860 on: December 14, 2021, 05:42:34 PM »
Cat S22 Flip is very decent.
I've been using it for a week now it's a full Android (not skinned down) and can use improvements but yes it's decent
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1861 on: December 14, 2021, 07:22:14 PM »
Your not gonna find a good flip phone for T-Mobile.
Some of us are ok with the Alcatel flip phones.
Slow & buggy but gets the job done.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1862 on: December 14, 2021, 07:22:48 PM »
Which phone?
I meant in general.
But let's say Alcatel Smartflip.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1863 on: December 14, 2021, 07:51:34 PM »
Cat S22 Flip is very decent.
Tagable?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1864 on: December 14, 2021, 07:59:10 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1865 on: December 14, 2021, 08:07:46 PM »
Like any android
Is it a full fledged android in a flip body?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1866 on: December 14, 2021, 08:46:33 PM »
Is it a full fledged android in a flip body?
Correct, go version, no practical difference
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1867 on: December 14, 2021, 10:39:11 PM »
Correct, go version, no practical difference

I would argue. Many differences. Some major, some minor.

1: Android go does not support android auto

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1868 on: December 15, 2021, 11:58:39 PM »
Your not gonna find a good flip phone for T-Mobile.
Nokia 6300?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1869 on: December 16, 2021, 07:29:10 AM »
I would argue. Many differences. Some major, some minor.

1: Android go does not support android auto

Relatively speaking compared to the heavily skins down flip phone versions it's full.

Don't use it so I missed it, thanks for pointing it out, perhaps there's a way to side load it?

I noticed that on the Gmail app I can't swipe to go to next/previous email and in chrome there's no "add to home screen" option.

The phone can use a better physical keyboard, the one that it comes installed with is the same as the schok phones (12keys) also would be useful to have an easier way to switch input methods.

I'm in touch with their support team by email, they're very responsive and willing to fix things, If you have feedback do reach out, of it's too much of an hassle post here and I'll share
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1870 on: December 16, 2021, 04:41:32 PM »
Cat S22 Flip is very decent.
Smartphone?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1871 on: December 19, 2021, 03:20:51 PM »
Your not gonna find a good flip phone for T-Mobile.
Just did.
 Played around with this Kyocera flip phone.
 Worked perfectly for t-mobile.
 You can use Tello or Hello Mobile on this phone for $5 unlimited talk and text.
 And can even get you a referral vote should you decide to switch to these services.

 I tested the text, picture messaging, internet and calls.
 Though I couldn't figure out how to get the hotspot to work.
I did change the APN to get everything else to work.

   Feel free to buy it yourself and try it out.

This guy has the best pricing on these phones, you can search for these on your own on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-E4810-DuraXV-Extreme-16GB-Verizon-Rugged-Cell-Phone-Very-Good-/383765195581?

 Though it needs to be unlocked. Or could be it comes already unlocked.
 If they're are not unlocked you can find a $5 unlock code on ebay.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1872 on: December 19, 2021, 03:35:24 PM »
Just did.
Played around with this Kyocera flip phone.
Worked perfectly for t-mobile.
 You can use Tello or Hello Mobile on this phone for $5 unlimited talk and text.
 And can even get you a referral vote should you decide to switch to these services.

 I tested the text, picture messaging, internet and calls.
 Though I couldn't figure out how to get the hotspot to work.
I did change the APN to get everything else to work.

   Feel free to buy it yourself and try it out.

This guy has the best pricing on these phones, you can search for these on your own on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-E4810-DuraXV-Extreme-16GB-Verizon-Rugged-Cell-Phone-Very-Good-/383765195581?

 Though it needs to be unlocked. Or could be it comes already unlocked.
If they're are not unlocked you can find a $5 unlock code on ebay.
What exactly did you do?  Can you link an unlock code?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1873 on: December 19, 2021, 03:50:55 PM »
Just did.
 Played around with this Kyocera flip phone.
 Worked perfectly for t-mobile.
 You can use Tello or Hello Mobile on this phone for $5 unlimited talk and text.
 And can even get you a referral vote should you decide to switch to these services.

 I tested the text, picture messaging, internet and calls.
 Though I couldn't figure out how to get the hotspot to work.
I did change the APN to get everything else to work.

   Feel free to buy it yourself and try it out.

This guy has the best pricing on these phones, you can search for these on your own on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyocera-E4810-DuraXV-Extreme-16GB-Verizon-Rugged-Cell-Phone-Very-Good-/383765195581?

 Though it needs to be unlocked. Or could be it comes already unlocked.
 If they're are not unlocked you can find a $5 unlock code on ebay.
Did yours come unlocked or not?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1874 on: December 19, 2021, 07:08:42 PM »
What exactly did you do?  Can you link an unlock code?
Did yours come unlocked or not?
I played with two different one's recently. Inserted my Tmobile sim card in both and they were both seemingly unlocked and worked like a charm.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1875 on: December 19, 2021, 08:04:09 PM »
I played with two different one's recently. Inserted my Tmobile sim card in both and they were both seemingly unlocked and worked like a charm.

Yes. Thats because they are all unlocked. Thanks I just tried it myself and it worked pretty good. Have to just get my APN settings...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1876 on: December 19, 2021, 08:08:13 PM »
Yes. Thats because they are all unlocked. Thanks I just tried it myself and it worked pretty good. Have to just get my APN settings...
What is APN for the layman?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1877 on: December 19, 2021, 08:13:17 PM »
Its a setting so that the data on a phone should work. Most smartphones automatically set it but once in a while you need to set it manually.

Settings> wireless & networks >Access point name (APN) And you follow what your provider (or google) tells you to do

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1878 on: December 19, 2021, 10:24:12 PM »
Its a setting so that the data on a phone should work. Most smartphones automatically set it but once in a while you need to set it manually.

Settings> wireless & networks >Access point name (APN) And you follow what your provider (or google) tells you to do
Will explained.
Yes. Thats because they are all unlocked. Thanks I just tried it myself and it worked pretty good. Have to just get my APN settings...
You had it handy and never tried it with tmobile? Hmmm
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #1879 on: December 19, 2021, 10:26:40 PM »
What exactly did you do?  Can you link an unlock code?
I guess we can add this to the wiki. Though I'm curios if one of you guys can get the hot-spot to work as well.

  Works amazing with tmobile 4g network.

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