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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #200 on: July 13, 2018, 02:29:43 AM »
Are you sure it works?
what I saw it said something, application is not installed.
It has it and im not on a prepaid plan.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #201 on: July 17, 2018, 11:12:21 AM »
someone can direct me to the right thread.. because I'm not looking for a flip phone, but a full keypad dumphone that's vzw 4g compatible. Does it exist? TIA

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« Reply #202 on: July 17, 2018, 12:28:23 PM »
Does not exist as of today.

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« Reply #203 on: July 17, 2018, 12:30:47 PM »
someone can direct me to the right thread.. because I'm not looking for a flip phone, but a full keypad dumphone that's vzw 4g compatible. Does it exist? TIA
Does not exist as of today.
what about this?
Amazon.com: Samsung Stratosphere SCH-i405 4G LTE Android Black
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #204 on: July 17, 2018, 12:39:07 PM »
If Anyone wants to buy an AT&T flip phone PM me

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #206 on: July 25, 2018, 07:46:39 PM »
Hi curious what your work around is for texting while on a call with the exalt 220? By me it works with certain calls and others not. Very random.

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« Reply #207 on: July 26, 2018, 06:59:56 AM »
Hi curious what your work around is for texting while on a call with the exalt 220? By me it works with certain calls and others not. Very random.
If I happen to be in my office at my desktop, or have my iPad with me and there's wifi, I use message+ on one of those. 
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #208 on: July 26, 2018, 09:56:22 AM »
Hi curious what your work around is for texting while on a call with the exalt 220? By me it works with certain calls and others not. Very random.
The easy way, if you know who's texting you or you wanna text someone in your contacts, while you on a phone call press the right soft key select contacts at the contact you have the option to send message.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #209 on: August 08, 2018, 09:18:04 AM »
Getting the 4g flip phone. If I buy a cheap smartphone also, can I switch the sim card to it to use waze etc. when necessary? I know gsm works this way, how about vzw? TIA

Also, someone mentioned its avail for $75- anyone know where? Safecell in lkwd has for $105 refurb.
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« Reply #210 on: August 08, 2018, 10:43:49 AM »


Getting the 4g flip phone. If I buy a cheap smartphone also, can I switch the sim card to it to use waze etc. when necessary? I know gsm works this way, how about vzw? TIA
Yes.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #211 on: August 08, 2018, 10:50:18 AM »
Yes, see below on my Exalt (with the Livigent block.)

Two other pros for the Exalt is:
1) The internet blocking is more secure and cannot be factory reset (for whom this matters.)
2) Much much more comfortable UI and options (I have used both, and while it is very hard to describe it is just much better.)


My Verizon cloud (contacts back up) stopped working suddenly, would you know how I can reset it or anything to do?
Comes up "Verizon Cloud has encountered an error. Please close application and try again (code:11)"
Any ideas why this happened?

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« Reply #212 on: August 08, 2018, 06:52:12 PM »
My Verizon cloud (contacts back up) stopped working suddenly, would you know how I can reset it or anything to do?
Comes up "Verizon Cloud has encountered an error. Please close application and try again (code:11)"
Any ideas why this happened?
No. But mine still works fine.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #213 on: August 16, 2018, 11:15:16 PM »
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #214 on: August 17, 2018, 10:50:22 AM »
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939
Wow, what about using it with verizon post paid?
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« Reply #215 on: August 17, 2018, 01:15:32 PM »
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #216 on: August 19, 2018, 05:39:27 PM »
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #217 on: August 23, 2018, 09:34:34 PM »
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
Thanks
"in laymen's terms" this is a Verizon Prepaid phone and cannot be used for anything else before using it for a year on Verizon prepaid.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #218 on: August 23, 2018, 11:38:11 PM »
"in laymen's terms" this is a Verizon Prepaid phone and cannot be used for anything else before using it for a year on Verizon prepaid.
...or paying $50 it seems. I did the math and it still came out cheaper than other options. I now have unlock code and hope all will work out.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #219 on: August 24, 2018, 08:55:07 AM »
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
Thanks

Ime it has to be active for 6 months on Verizon prepaid before you can activate it on MNVO’s

There is no unlocking on Verizon , it’s not that the phone is locked, the only (illegal) way is to change the ESN number which not many people do these days