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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 498669 times)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2040 on: June 26, 2022, 03:49:38 PM »
The same guy that created the Torem software https://p.donary.com/productandplans (that tiny CC processor) and https://matbia.com/
He wanted to make a phone for the longest time, but had a lot of hiccups along the way.

BTW he is a guy very tech knowledgable, and is a non-smartphone user...
And now he's out with a new kosher navigation device. Basically a smartphone without a screen, which will only work with Android auto.
Pretty clever.

https://cruisebox.tech/

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2041 on: June 26, 2022, 07:22:47 PM »
And now he's out with a new kosher navigation device. Basically a smartphone without a screen, which will only work with Android auto.
Pretty clever.

https://cruisebox.tech/
I was WAITING for someone to finally make this! Amazing.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2042 on: June 27, 2022, 03:56:00 PM »
What's better. Sonim xp3 plus or kyocera dura extreme

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2043 on: June 28, 2022, 01:11:55 AM »
I personally prefer the Sonim over Kyocera for texting.
For Kashrus, the Kyocera can be filtered properly by tag or Meshimer better that Sonim.
(I'm not sure the Sonim xp3 plus can be filtered yet.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2046 on: June 30, 2022, 01:07:36 PM »
Works with Verizon wireless?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2047 on: June 30, 2022, 01:15:02 PM »
Works with Verizon wireless?
Based on the info all over, the Unihertz Titan Pocket works on Verizon (but sometimes might be difficult to activate.)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2049 on: July 01, 2022, 02:34:52 AM »
I bought this phone when it came out, thinking I was going to make a qwerty kosher smartphone. Then I picked it up. Its VERY heavy.
In other news, the name is a tad bit confusing to me:

kphone

kphone

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2050 on: July 01, 2022, 11:30:00 AM »
I bought this phone when it came out, thinking I was going to make a qwerty kosher smartphone. Then I picked it up. Its VERY heavy.
In other news, the name is a tad bit confusing to me:

kphone

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Cost for the kosher version?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2051 on: July 01, 2022, 12:23:46 PM »
Can someone make another run of the LG UN200, or classic ($30)?

The Kosher Phone arena is a mess IMO.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2052 on: July 01, 2022, 12:41:05 PM »
The Kosher Phone arena is a mess IMO.

The lifetime of te product may only be until canon runs out of point and shoots.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2053 on: July 01, 2022, 02:07:40 PM »
Can someone make another run of the LG UN200, or classic ($30)?

You probably mean the VN220 bec the UN model is essentially a brick. Works with no carriers.

The Kosher Phone arena is a mess IMO.

The BASIC phone arena is a mess, due to big companies like Verizon trying to maximize profits by trying to make their own garbage (Orbic Journey V we are looking at you), instead of letting real brands (LG, Kyocera), continue their models.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2054 on: July 03, 2022, 09:34:17 AM »
what is the current best phone+service combo for lakewood? and what about someone on the road?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2055 on: July 04, 2022, 11:08:47 AM »
Anyone else have the Kyocera E4810?
I've had it for the last 8 months, and the message app (text) either takes 20 to 40 seconds to open and only then work, and sometimes even after I opens it closes and asks if I want to close app or wait.
And when I click "wait" it usually closes either way and gives me a message saying "message cannot start because this device is too busy now. Try again later".
Anyone that has phone with same issue?
Any way to fix it?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2056 on: July 04, 2022, 11:47:34 AM »
Yes I have similar issue but not as bad. It takes like 5 seconds to open messages. Did you add apps to phone? That can be a problem. I dont have apps but I do have three email accounts synced so that can be a factor.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2057 on: July 04, 2022, 01:32:51 PM »
Anyone else have the Kyocera E4810?
I've had it for the last 8 months, and the message app (text) either takes 20 to 40 seconds to open and only then work, and sometimes even after I opens it closes and asks if I want to close app or wait.
And when I click "wait" it usually closes either way and gives me a message saying "message cannot start because this device is too busy now. Try again later".
Anyone that has phone with same issue?
Any way to fix it?
Did you try deleting old or large (media) messages? I assume thats the issue with that phone. No clue why they dumped message+ for that useless messaging app

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2058 on: July 13, 2022, 11:20:53 PM »
Anyone else have the Kyocera E4810?
I've had it for the last 8 months, and the message app (text) either takes 20 to 40 seconds to open and only then work, and sometimes even after I opens it closes and asks if I want to close app or wait.
And when I click "wait" it usually closes either way and gives me a message saying "message cannot start because this device is too busy now. Try again later".
Anyone that has phone with same issue?
Any way to fix it?
By me it was also a disaster. went back to the E4610

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2059 on: July 13, 2022, 11:21:46 PM »

4 new phones that can be filtered by TAG
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