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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 503590 times)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2080 on: July 25, 2022, 01:57:28 AM »
  its a basic phone?
Yes.
(Probably modified android)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2081 on: July 25, 2022, 06:06:39 PM »
Asking for a friend - looking to back up some text messages to a computer (text/csv/etc file). Google pointed in this direction: https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/verizonmessages/9PLSFG6PJZ50?hl=en-us&gl=US
but the app has bad reviews

Anyone have experience with it or any advice? TIA

Phone is Kyocera Cadence with verizon.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2082 on: July 25, 2022, 07:34:45 PM »
Asking for a friend - looking to back up some text messages to a computer (text/csv/etc file). Google pointed in this direction: https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/verizonmessages/9PLSFG6PJZ50?hl=en-us&gl=US
but the app has bad reviews

Anyone have experience with it or any advice? TIA

Phone is Kyocera Cadence with verizon.
Not sure of this help, but this is what I've used with hood experiences
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2083 on: July 25, 2022, 07:35:58 PM »
Not sure of this help, but this is what I've used with hood experiences
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore
TY
Assuming this is only for smartphones?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2084 on: July 25, 2022, 07:37:18 PM »
TY
Assuming this is only for smartphones?
I've used it with android smartphones only, so that might be the case

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2085 on: July 25, 2022, 07:38:27 PM »
I've used it with android smartphones only, so that might be the case
Oh well.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2086 on: July 25, 2022, 09:32:37 PM »
Asking for a friend - looking to back up some text messages to a computer (text/csv/etc file). Google pointed in this direction: https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/verizonmessages/9PLSFG6PJZ50?hl=en-us&gl=US
but the app has bad reviews

Anyone have experience with it or any advice? TIA

Phone is Kyocera Cadence with verizon.
Update: looks like the app doesn't exist for downloading anymore, but you can text online, but when you set that up then it only syncs text messages going forward.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2087 on: July 26, 2022, 10:30:05 AM »
Update: looks like the app doesn't exist for downloading anymore, but you can text online, but when you set that up then it only syncs text messages going forward.
Still available for me:



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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2088 on: July 26, 2022, 10:34:49 AM »
Still available for me:


I don't have that, when I use the link from the website there's no Install button, and this is what happens when I search:
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2089 on: July 26, 2022, 10:43:20 AM »
I don't have that, when I use the link from the website there's no Install button, and this is what happens when I search:

🤷

Search also doesn't find it for me, but the link brings me to the webpage that has a blue Get in Store app button that opens the app to Install.

You can download the offline installer file here: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ao8EzDmtlA0Jj07_4NXKvqvjlAZw?e=v5Q9yS

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2090 on: July 26, 2022, 10:45:57 AM »
Hmm, the website link gives me this popup but no install button


Will try your link. Thanks!

(ETA and when I click More Details I get this https://i.imgur.com/VFGan4E.png but STILL no install button, and if I click Verizon Wireless it only offers the Verizon Connection Manager app)
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2091 on: July 26, 2022, 10:47:27 AM »
Hmm, the website link gives me this popup but no install button


Will try your link. Thanks!
The "More details" in the popup should open it full screen in the store. Perhaps some restriction on your Microsoft Store or on your Windows user...

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2092 on: July 26, 2022, 10:48:41 AM »
See my ETA. Shouldn't be any restrictions plus I tried on 2 computers. Weird!
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2093 on: July 26, 2022, 02:36:41 PM »
See my ETA. Shouldn't be any restrictions plus I tried on 2 computers. Weird!
Which windows version?

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« Reply #2094 on: July 26, 2022, 02:36:49 PM »
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2095 on: July 26, 2022, 02:41:52 PM »
both 10
I'm on 11, but the System Requirements has OS :Windows 10 version 14316.0 or higher.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2096 on: July 26, 2022, 08:21:43 PM »
I'm on 11, but the System Requirements has OS :Windows 10 version 14316.0 or higher.
Hmm I see some info in settings but nothing that looks like that
Version 21H1
OS Build 19043.1826
Experience 120.2212.4180.0
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« Reply #2097 on: July 26, 2022, 10:09:54 PM »
You can download the offline installer file here: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ao8EzDmtlA0Jj07_4NXKvqvjlAZw?e=v5Q9yS
Can I ask where you got this link? TY
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« Reply #2098 on: July 26, 2022, 10:53:02 PM »
Can I ask where you got this link? TY
You didn't say yet if the installer package worked for you..

https://store.rg-adguard.net/ is a great site that generates direct download links for Microsoft store apps installer packages (the download links are from Microsoft servers, so legit.)

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« Reply #2099 on: July 26, 2022, 10:55:48 PM »
You didn't say yet if the installer package worked for you..

https://store.rg-adguard.net/ is a great site that generates direct download links for Microsoft store apps installer packages (the download links are from Microsoft servers, so legit.)
It was for a friend who doesn't want to try it without a source. Will hopefully try tomorrow. TY!
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