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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, very delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $300. Going to be replaced with the LG Wine 2 LTE (Exalt 2 LTE?)

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different massaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)

Compatible Networks; ??

Successor to the LG Wine LTE, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body was shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold.At the moment only available from U.S. Cellular (midwest US). Probably will show up soon on Verzion (albeit wiith a new name, and higher price tag.)

Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $180

Kyocera DuraXV LTE

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a massive, rugged package. And added video playback capability.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Not yet Yes. http://www.kosherfonewireless.com Tag is working on it

Compatible Networks; (Assumed)
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!

Kazuna eTalk

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone

Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Flip phone sold koshered on koshercell.org and direct from Wing.
I don’t have any specific info on this product

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE

Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.


Other niche options you may want to look into
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com
Punkt MP02                                https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Buy the Kyocera Cadence
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on


Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #210 on: August 08, 2018, 10:43:49 AM »


Getting the 4g flip phone. If I buy a cheap smartphone also, can I switch the sim card to it to use waze etc. when necessary? I know gsm works this way, how about vzw? TIA
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« Reply #211 on: August 08, 2018, 10:50:18 AM »
Yes, see below on my Exalt (with the Livigent block.)

Two other pros for the Exalt is:
1) The internet blocking is more secure and cannot be factory reset (for whom this matters.)
2) Much much more comfortable UI and options (I have used both, and while it is very hard to describe it is just much better.)


My Verizon cloud (contacts back up) stopped working suddenly, would you know how I can reset it or anything to do?
Comes up "Verizon Cloud has encountered an error. Please close application and try again (code:11)"
Any ideas why this happened?

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« Reply #212 on: August 08, 2018, 06:52:12 PM »
My Verizon cloud (contacts back up) stopped working suddenly, would you know how I can reset it or anything to do?
Comes up "Verizon Cloud has encountered an error. Please close application and try again (code:11)"
Any ideas why this happened?
No. But mine still works fine.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #213 on: August 16, 2018, 11:15:16 PM »
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939

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« Reply #214 on: August 17, 2018, 10:50:22 AM »
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939
Wow, what about using it with verizon post paid?
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« Reply #215 on: August 17, 2018, 01:15:32 PM »
Verizon basic phone (4g flip) PREPAID- will that work with Red Pocket Mobile? $120 on verizon site, $175 in local cellphone store, vs 29.88 in Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Kyocera-Cadence-Prepaid-Cell-Phone-16GB-Black/229903939
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
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« Reply #216 on: August 19, 2018, 05:39:27 PM »
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #217 on: August 23, 2018, 09:34:34 PM »
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
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"in laymen's terms" this is a Verizon Prepaid phone and cannot be used for anything else before using it for a year on Verizon prepaid.

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« Reply #218 on: August 23, 2018, 11:38:11 PM »
"in laymen's terms" this is a Verizon Prepaid phone and cannot be used for anything else before using it for a year on Verizon prepaid.
...or paying $50 it seems. I did the math and it still came out cheaper than other options. I now have unlock code and hope all will work out.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #219 on: August 24, 2018, 08:55:07 AM »
phone came today with this "in order to partially offset the subsidy Verizon ... this phone may only be used with Verizon Prepaid service for 1 yr/ until $50 in payments are received"

Does that mean I have to go through the trouble of manually unlocking it? Is that even possible? I'm not very familiar with unlocking "sugya", can anyone explain in laymen's terms if I'd need to/how I should for Red Pocket Mobile.
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Ime it has to be active for 6 months on Verizon prepaid before you can activate it on MNVO’s

There is no unlocking on Verizon , it’s not that the phone is locked, the only (illegal) way is to change the ESN number which not many people do these days

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #220 on: August 31, 2018, 10:06:38 AM »
...or paying $50 it seems. I did the math and it still came out cheaper than other options. I now have unlock code and hope all will work out.
Any update?

Also any verdict on whether this will work with t-mobile ?
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« Reply #221 on: September 03, 2018, 10:59:11 AM »
Any update?

Also any verdict on whether this will work with t-mobile ?
Getting rpm sim card this week and will let e/o know. Not happy with the phone though..

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« Reply #222 on: September 07, 2018, 10:48:35 AM »
Getting rpm sim card this week and will let e/o know. Not happy with the phone though..
Got news?
Looks like it only supports LTE bands 4 & 13, T-mobile utilizes 2,4,12,66,71 so the only matching band would be 4

See this https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/6k9ztf/will_i_survive_without_band_2_lte_in_the_nyc_area/
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« Reply #223 on: September 19, 2018, 11:35:11 PM »
Getting rpm sim card this week and will let e/o know. Not happy with the phone though..
Any update if it worked?
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« Reply #224 on: October 03, 2018, 11:31:12 AM »
Any update if it worked?
not really.. then again, we had a hectic month and couldn't put in much effort. Just easier for us to drop the whole thing and get a unlocked (not prepaid) phone and use this one for verizon