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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


Author Topic: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE  (Read 503592 times)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2140 on: September 04, 2022, 02:26:05 PM »
If you have the Walmart family LG Classic it should very well with Tmobile with no issues as that phone supports the bands needed.
exact model number is LM-Y120UM. rev 1.0 k.c. 1.1.1 software version y120um10e
software updates are blocked

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« Reply #2141 on: September 04, 2022, 05:16:04 PM »
exact model number is LM-Y120UM. rev 1.0 k.c. 1.1.1 software version y120um10e
software updates are blocked
Thats the issue. That's some random model. I have tried in the past and was a no go. Get the tracfone version to get tmobile service or Verizon service.
   If you want Verizon service follow my track phone and device below for $30 using my referral code.
 If you want to use it on T-Mobile you would have to do the same 1st on tracfone.com.

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https://forums.apps4flip.com/d/106-issues-with-the-unlocked-lg-wine2-not-working-properly-on-t-mobile
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« Reply #2142 on: September 04, 2022, 05:17:08 PM »
The reason why you are having issues has nothing to go with 5g. The Lg classic phones break down. Also may have to do with the fact that you are on t-mobile. If you buy the Kyocera on Verizon, its worth it.
Read up thread.  Regular LG classic flip works perfectly fine on T-Mobile.  He has some random version.

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« Reply #2143 on: September 04, 2022, 05:17:26 PM »
What is a good website for those devices?
Will post later.
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« Reply #2144 on: September 04, 2022, 05:18:22 PM »





I'm in LA. They were purchased from someone local already set up by @Kosher_Cellutions
@myi the classic would be great. They're just not working reliably. Many of their friends have them as well and they are increasingly not reliable.

 mobi on Verizon with Kyocera sounds good. Is it real Verizon service? Where would one get the phone?
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2145 on: September 04, 2022, 07:27:36 PM »
exact model number is LM-Y120UM. rev 1.0 k.c. 1.1.1 software version y120um10e
software updates are blocked

That model is iffy with verizon.
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« Reply #2146 on: September 04, 2022, 09:25:36 PM »
That model is iffy with verizon.
As well as tmobile.  Made for us cellular or something to that effect.
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« Reply #2147 on: September 07, 2022, 02:05:42 AM »
how di I import my contacts from an iphone to a flip phone

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« Reply #2148 on: September 07, 2022, 08:46:44 PM »
how di I import my contacts from an iphone to a flip phone
What flip phone?

If it supports Google Play Services like the Schok, you can do it easily with Google Contacts. Other phones have other methods. Please clarify what model flip phone you are referring to.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2149 on: September 07, 2022, 09:09:31 PM »
how di I import my contacts from an iphone to a flip phone
you can upload a vCard from your sd card onto the flip

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2150 on: September 08, 2022, 12:12:30 PM »
What flip phone?

If it supports Google Play Services like the Schok, you can do it easily with Google Contacts. Other phones have other methods. Please clarify what model flip phone you are referring to.
Can it be done with Kyocera Verizon?

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« Reply #2151 on: September 08, 2022, 08:22:23 PM »
I believe not. But I think there's a way to do it through icloud, or you can search up apps that can transfer contacts from IOS to Android.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2152 on: September 14, 2022, 01:06:52 PM »
What flip phone?

If it supports Google Play Services like the Schok, you can do it easily with Google Contacts. Other phones have other methods. Please clarify what model flip phone you are referring to.

Its the Tracphone TCL Flip 2

thank you

you can upload a vCard from your sd card onto the flip
how would I upload my contacts from iPhone to the SD card? & what's a vCard

Edit: I actually see that all my contacts are synced through google contacts which gives me the option of exporting to vCard or CSV, I'm assuming best is to export via vCard 
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« Reply #2153 on: September 14, 2022, 01:36:47 PM »
you can upload a vCard from your sd card onto the flip
worked beautifully

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2154 on: September 14, 2022, 01:55:14 PM »
Are there any recommendations for non-smart phones that are NOT flip phones? Are those called "bar" phones?

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« Reply #2155 on: September 14, 2022, 09:10:34 PM »
There is nokia 6300, better thank the other KaiOS phones, but not great.

The SONIM XP5 is pretty good, and for a great price on eBay, but is a little bit old. The Sonim XP5S is a lot more expensive but pretty nice.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2156 on: September 14, 2022, 11:16:53 PM »
Are there any recommendations for non-smart phones that are NOT flip phones? Are those called "bar" phones?
Kind of ironic question when you look at the thread title.
Don't even try it.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2157 on: September 15, 2022, 12:05:04 AM »
NEW RULES for those asking for a phone recommendation:
PLEASE INCLUDE:

FORM FACTOR: Flip, Bar, QWERTY (barely exists, but... maybe soon)
SERVICE: VERIZON/ATT/T-MOBILE (or their respective MVNOs)
PRICE RANGE: The higher you go the more choices. Priciest seems to be around $350 right now.
NEEDED "APPS": Most are no-no, but maybe email and a few others
Additional info: (I need for my son who uses it to call once a week/ I need a durable phone/I am switching from a smartphone so something similar/easy.

If you add this info it would make helping you much easier.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2158 on: September 15, 2022, 12:11:59 PM »
Bar phone for Verizon, no apps needed (would love Waze, but not necessary), price is...I wouldn't say "not a factor," obviously less is better, but I wouldn't rule out a great option based just on cost.

Kind of ironic question when you look at the thread title.

Ironic, yes, but I didn't see another thread for non-flip phones, and this thread seems likely to have a lot of overlap.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2159 on: September 15, 2022, 01:29:02 PM »
Bar phone for Verizon, no apps needed (would love Waze, but not necessary), price is...I wouldn't say "not a factor," obviously less is better, but I wouldn't rule out a great option based just on cost.

Fig is kosher (Qin F21 pro) comes with waze, decent phone but issues with Verizon compatibility/coverage. The newer model the F30 is supposed to have better Verizon compatibility.

Light phone II Check it up. https://www.thelightphone.com/ it's a whole different thing.